New Irish Rail Intercity, Commuter and DART Timetable Public Consultation

If the service was equally bad on all intercity trains I would accept this explanation but it is not. Services on other lines have been improved over the years but Waterford line customers get fobbed off with excuses and overpriced fares. Overcrowding is getting dangerous on the 06:45 (formerly 07:00) from Waterford since Kilkenny was incorporated into the itinerary.

It is not acceptable to ask people to pay so much to stand for over an hour twice a day.

Why is Irish Rail deliberately running down the Waterford line when there is such demand for the service but fund other lines? People from Sallins and Naas pay a reduced rate and get a great selection of trains. People in Newbridge and Kildare pay full fare but get a fantastic service. The Portlaoise service is much better than the service on the Waterford line with more frequent trains.

The service is so bad that there are people in Athy who drive 30 minutes to Kildare to get the train to Dublin rather than walk 10 minutes up the road to suffer the Waterford line. Not very environmentally friendly but if there is no adequate service what else is there to do?

Would Irish Rail be willing to reduce fares for regular travellers on the Waterford line until an adequate service is provided? I think this is reasonable. The excuse "reduced fares will increase demand" won't wash because the trains are full to capacity including aisles and spaces between carriages already!

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Agree with this. I don’t think the Waterford trains should be stopping in both Kildare and newbridge- while I get it’s important for connections and newbridge is a big town in it’s own right - though I guess that still doesn’t help Carlow athy much. The new late morning service will hopefully ease some of that pressure

they would in their hoop.

south eastern passengers get nothing and will get nothing, we are not wanted but are just tolerated.

nobody to stand up for us and irish rail are a law on to themselves and do what they do because they can.

forget about the NTA they couldn't give a toss either, just more management to manage the management and so on and shur you know the rest.

anyway my genuine sympathy to you and the other waterford passengers.

Interestingly it is party policy of both FF and FG to extend the short hop zone. It must be the Greens holding them back.

this is absolute nonsense straight out of the 1960s and was destroyed even back then.

waterford has already got plenty of private coach operations and yet the train line is heavily used.

guess what, close the train line and all you will do is mostly increase car traffic, because even if the private coach companies stepped in, they won't get much more then they are already getting since if the rail passengers felt the coach was more suitable they would already be using it.

you also won't free up very much trains.

2022 and people are still parroting this crap.

again, why would we do that given the trains are busy?

if we close it temporary then given the coach companies cant get staff and there are now no trains that means increased car traffic which makes things worse for the coach users.

so you have taken away capacity and thrown it on to the roads ultimately for nothing because closing it until things improve rather then keeping it open and improving things delivers nothing.

Stupid? Nice attitude. You need to calm down here.

The Waterford line is not dying (pretty far from it) it’s actually a victim of its own success as the numbers using it have grown massively. It would be unthinkable to close it. Very little relative investment would do massive improvement

There’s a ton of room at Kilkenny station- seems frankly ridiculous that if there’s an issue with the platforms that they cannot be extended if that’s what’s needed.

We will have 22 x 6 car ICR units when then 41 new intermediate carriages are in service. We currently have 10 x 5 Car ICR units.