"Nobody cares about Covid anymore"

martinedwards · 18-12-2022 9:38am #1

True or false?

on one hand, my son is 21. he is out and about living life to the full, and Covid is gone, a thing of the past, if it ever happened at all.

On the other hand, my wife has health issues and the hospitals say if you get Covid, then unless it is a life threatening emergency, you will NOT, under any other circumstances, have a general anaesthetic for at least 7 weeks after testing negative again.

this is a serious concern for She who must be obeyed.

another son lives in London and cant remember the last time he saw anyone wearing a facemask.

Son #3 is a doctor in Wales and understandably is still following Covid protocols.

In South Antrim (where I am) Shops all still have hand gel at the doors, and maybe 1 in 20 folk in the shops (wifey included) are still masked.

whats the general vibe about the place?

cool kids gotta get out and breed, and oldies are nearly dead anyway? (mind you, our Parents (in their late 80s) are less Covid secure than the kids!)

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Wanderer2010 · 18-12-2022 9:53am

Personally i think unless you are directly affected by it , the pandemic is dead and buried. After 2 years of lockdowns, mass trauma and economic strife there is almost an unspoken collective agreement to erase this whole experience and return to pre-Covid life as soon as possible. Look at the pubs, clubs, hotels and restaurants: booked out every single week with all manner of events by people who want to make up for lost time.

If we could only get rid of those stupid Covid stickers on peoples cars that would be great. They are completely irrelevant now and id wager that 50% of them are just chancing their arm and have no connection to frontline workers at all.

Xander10 · 18-12-2022 10:04am

Covid is going to be around for years to come. Most likely newer and weaker strains of the virus, akin to average flu.

Life has to return to normal. Particularly for people's mental wellbeing.

If you feel you are in a vulnerable category then by all means get a jab if you want.

Tonesjones · 18-12-2022 10:08am

Joe OShea

sunbabe08 · 18-12-2022 10:18am

I'm still being careful as much as i can, still wearing my mask in shops and on public transport and to be honest i think i will remain doing that for a while longer because thankfully i have no got a cold or lost my voice this year and i like to keep it that way. besides that i've been travelling this year back to pre covid days.

i completely understand folks wanting to get back to normal, but this virus ain't going any where for a while and its so random

Akrasia · 18-12-2022 10:38am

COVID is over. It was dangerous when it was a novel virus because nobody had immunity to it. By now everyone has either had at least 1 vaccine or has had the virus at least once.

Some people may still get very sick,some people will still die. But that's influenza

walshb · 18-12-2022 10:47am

It’s still out there, and in certain settings I mask. I still wouldn’t like to catch it, so a mask here and there hopefully lessens my chances.

looksee · 18-12-2022 11:20am

I would be technically considered vulnerable, though I am generally healthy. I don't wear masks except where I have to (doctor's surgery, and tbh I think that is a good idea anyway, given they are centres of disease distribution), I am fully vaccinated, I do the supermarket trolly cleaning (again a good idea, I always felt even before Covid that they were manky), so as far as I am personally concerned its over. I could yet be proved wrong. Anyone prefers or needs to wear a mask, good luck to them, not my business.

BrianD3 · 18-12-2022 11:44am

I'm still wearing my FFP2 in the supermarket, was in there yesterday and out of 100+ people, I saw nobody else wearing a mask of any kind.

I see no downsides to wearing a good mask in a crowded shop - reduces chance of getting a cold, flu or covid, all of which I can do without. Also means people are much less likely to recognise me or try to start a stupid conversation.

If former mask zealots are now not wearing it show how sheeple like they are. Wear a mask because de man on de telly told them to. Scream at the unmasked. Then at some undefined point, "the pandemic ends" and mask wearing is soon forgotten.

Itssoeasy · 18-12-2022 11:59am

Only time now is at the dentist which still are mandating a mask to enter, which I can see why that might happpen.

riclad · 18-12-2022 12:53pm

Why dont people wear masks

At least 95 per cent of people got vaxxed and boosted. I think the attitude is everyone can get covid but if your vaxxed its like getting a cold

Not a serious problem. I went to.hospital to pay a bill. Theres security there everyone has to wear a mask all the time inside the building

Masks also stop colds and other infections not just covid from spreading

If You are a young healthy person you should be able to live a normal life and go out and meet people as if it was 2019 as long as you are vaccinated. Im sure doctors and hospitals are still busy with covid patients and dentists have to take precautions

Covid will be with us for years. Theres people arriving here from europe every day. Theres no way we will ever be covid free I still use cleaning dispensers even though im vaxxed

Meanwhile the hse is still spending millions treating covid patients

Maybe airports should have covid tests for all passengers visitors as it works in china

In america covid is still the primary cause of fatalitys for people under the age of 60

riclad · 18-12-2022 1:00pm

You wear a mask in hospitals certain places to reduce the chance of infection even if you are vaccinated

Not because someone on tv told you to do so. Theres still people out there who never got vaxxed or maybe they are junkies or people who dont believe in vaccination or think its a government conspiracy

Vaccination does not stop you from getting covid it just makes it less of a threat to your health

NIMAN · 18-12-2022 1:01pm

From what I see at work and out socialising of late, it is more or less 99% forgotten about.

If 1 in every 100 is wearing a mask, that's the height of it. I'd guess it's actually a lot less. The people I do see wearing them tend to be a lot older and I'd guess more vulnerable, and if I see a younger person wearing one I assume they are a carer.

Still see the odd hand gel bottle about, but never see anyone using them any more.

Still have to wear a mask entering all the GP practices, but would expect that.

People are still catching it, a sibling had it last week for the 2nd time. This time she said it was very mild. Couple of days of a flu and better again. But difference is people aren't afraid to catch it now.

Seeing how most of the world is getting on with life again, it's strange to see how draconian China is at present.

Mad_maxx · 18-12-2022 1:21pm

Yes , the mass psychosis has thankfully passed , small number of (Japanese style jungle dwelling soldiers circa 1951 ) people still clinging on to the mask wearing drama

Mad_maxx · 18-12-2022 1:23pm

If covid policy was ever anything more than ham political theatre , we would not have let in sixty thousand people from a region where vaccine uptake was extremely low

SuperBowserWorld · 18-12-2022 1:29pm

Ah, get out and enjoy life before the next pandemic, godzilla attack, nuclear armageddon, ...

Also, get a less severe form to help combat a more severe form of the disease.

If people really want to save lives they could donate money to the poor worldwide. Or drive less and walk more.

It wasnt me123 · 18-12-2022 1:42pm

I have a private clinic and I and my co-worker wear masks when anyone else enters the clinic (not when we are there on our own). Most of my patients would be 60+ and I’m amazed how little they wear a mask - they would be considered high risk with co-morbidities - but they aren’t bothered. IMO, I think they are foolish but I’m sick of saying it to them - I also use a screen so between my mask and screen I’m doing as much as I can. I also only have one patient in at a time and still practice social distancing in the clinic and when I’m in queues etc. I have patients every week cancelling due to Covid, its not gone away and I don’t want it again!

facehugger99 · 18-12-2022 2:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120009286#Comment_120009286

Covid was never even remotely dangerous to the vast, vast majority of people.

Strumms · 18-12-2022 2:43pm

Vaccines have really been a revelation.

people still care about COVID though. Will for a while.

it’s always been a balancing act. Between life and living.

Dohnjoe · 18-12-2022 2:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120009909#Comment_120009909

Still managed to kill 6 million people worldwide in just over two years, e.g. one in every 300 Americans, threatened to overwhelm national health systems, pushed health staff to their limits (and beyond) all over the world. And all of that was with intense measures against it, unthinkable if we'd done nothing.

Akrasia · 18-12-2022 2:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120009909#Comment_120009909

Tell that to the families of the people in the mass graves in Italy and New York

Dohnjoe · 18-12-2022 2:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120009940#Comment_120009940

Any interviews or comments I've read from ICU nurses and doctors paints a very, very different picture from these "it's just a little flu" revisionists.

RoTelly · 18-12-2022 3:08pm

@riclad

If You are a young healthy person you should be able to live a normal life and go out and meet people as if it was 2019 as long as you are vaccinated.

Why? There is no actual reason for anyone really under the age of 50 (I'd even suggest 60, others might say 40 and others again 30) who are healthy to get a vaccination. Mostly like even with the initial version you'd probably wouldn't have even noticed you had it, the new strains are supposedly less sever and even if you are vaccinated you will spread COVID if you get it, as it doesn't prevent this.

and when did they get the vaccine, should we have been boosted at this stage?

Larbre34 · 18-12-2022 3:11pm

A relation of mine who has Crohn's disease contracted Covid for the first time about two weeks ago.

He remains very ill and is isolated at home, being warned that at this moment of extremely low immunity, if he got Flu or another virus circulating, it could affect many of his organs and kill him.

Its well for those for whom Covid can be largely ignored and left in the past, but in public settings its everyone's responsibility to limit the spread of all diseases, at a time that they are taking out whole classes and workplaces.

You'll never tell who, out in public, has reduced immunity, just be sensible and assume everyone has, especially you feel that you are carrying a dose yourself.

Mad_maxx · 18-12-2022 3:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120009909#Comment_120009909

That was patently clear by about June of 2020 , we didn’t know what we weee dealing with at the start so the lockdown approach was understandable

riclad · 18-12-2022 3:15pm

A million people died in america from covid, you,ll likely only end up in the icu if you are not vaxxed and boosted, you dont go to the icu unless you have very serious health problems ,

it seems every actor famous celeb has got covid at some point , but they recovered as they were fully vaxxed, eg james cameron film director has covid right now ,most people recover after 10 days to a week if they are vaccinatted , i presume 95 per cent of people living here are vaxxed , if any person wants to get a job in a cafe, night club restaurant i presume they would need to show they are vaxxed

Mad_maxx · 18-12-2022 3:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120009927#Comment_120009927

Lies and damn statistics

RoTelly · 18-12-2022 3:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120010014#Comment_120010014

I question that ric lad. Cameron (68) is an older man so perhaps for him its important to get the vax, and it helped him to recover quickly, did he take any other medication and also how healthy is he?

You'll most likely end up in ICU due to age and co-morbidities, your vaccination status for a young/healthy individual make this much less.

If you look at the stats for Ireland we had a much worse death rate this summer compared to last, while winter this (currently) seems to have dropped significantly but I suggest being exposed to the virus by the general population may have more to do with this than the actual vaccine that wans as time goes on.

Any celebs go to ICU due to COVID over the last 2 years?

breezy1985 · 18-12-2022 3:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120010014#Comment_120010014

Are you talking about the US or Ireland.

I don't know anywhere in hospitality in Ireland asking for proof of vaccination.

Dohnjoe · 18-12-2022 3:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120010017#Comment_120010017

6.6 million deaths so far

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/

1.1 million deaths in the US

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101932/coronavirus-covid19-cases-and-deaths-number-us-americans/

18-12-2022 3:24pm

COVID is certainly over now as a serious illness but now we have to deal with the fallout of the lockdown policies.

Inflation, debt, damaged global economy and excess deaths as cancers and other illnesses went undetected.

Id love to see a proper investigation into our handling of COVID. We need to be sure if another pandemic occurs that we are following science and data, which was sadly lacking from our handling.

"Nobody cares about Covid anymore"

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