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FI Charts ( T120+ onwards) Winter 2022/2023 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST POST**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,959 ✭✭✭✭Villain


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    ECM ensembles showing good support for back to cold air after a mild blip but lots of options there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    The UKMO MOGREPS reflects the continued 'trend' towards colder weather returning after Sunday/Monday. The 06z GFS remarkably is not shying away from the very cold overnight run 😱 Will see what the ensembles say in a while

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    -8s back over the country by Tuesday on the GFS

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Cork2021




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    GFS 6z is more of the same, cold, frosty and dry. If this verifies December is going to be an incredibly dry month.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Longing


    Good news and bad news. It looks like the cold will return but people looking for snow I'm afraid not looking good with the high pressure eventually moving east and sitting right bang on top of us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭almostthere12


    That's one very frosty Christmas morning if the GFS 6z verifies, the chances of getting snow in Cork are minimal no matter what way the wind blows so would definitely take that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Cork2021




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    This certainly beats the typical 13C and sideways drizzle we get during Christmas, however very disappointing from a snow perspective to get an entire month cold spell without a flake of snow for most of the country. By now I would want some snow if it is to remain very cold to make things more exciting. I was preferring how things looked up to yesterday morning with a more unsettled but still cool outlook, we would have gotten some wintry precipitation at times. These charts if verified are also going to cripple some people with the fuel bills.

    I put 500 litres into the tank last week and the heat has been on most of the time, I'm almost afraid to take a measurement to find out how much it has dipped since last week.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Brief warmup then temps dropping again by the 21st.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    GFS 6z operational is now out to 384 hours and we finish up still high, dry and cold and very close to pulling in the freezer. A milder blip this weekend, a 1 day wonder like a summer heat spike and then we're back into a run of very cold temperatures and endless frosty nights till the end of the month if the GFS is correct.

    It's worth noting that the GFS 00z was a cold outlier at the very coldest range of the set out of alot of scatter. The 6z is most likely similar. This is no guarantee that the rest of the December is going to be bitterly cold. We could end up a more regular cool period instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    I still think a mobile Atlantic pattern alternating between cold NW and milder SW is the most likely outcome, Gonzo. For next week anyway at least

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,445 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Ya I'd agree. 3 more days of in the freezer and then mild and cold spells , maybe a wintry day around 21st. Christmas fairly benign 5 to 7c maybe some night frost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Brendan offaly


    I have a feeling this winter will continue with much the same theme.

    Freezing cold and dry with milder interruptions from time to time.

    Even a fine dry hot summer gets interrupted ever so often then returns.

    Only a gut feeling not based on any scientific analysis.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    That pretty much sums up the latest CFS extended. From Saturday all the way into mid March is a mixture of mild interludes and plenty of short lived cold or very cold spells, however none of the mild or cold spells last that long. If that is the case expect plenty more frost and some wintryness over the coming months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Brendan offaly


    Ye but remember last week we all expected this cold spell to end yesterday but it just keeps on going.

    It will be interesting to see if the models dilute the mild intervention in the next few days.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    GFS 12Z run. Nice bit of cold over Ireland at +168 hours.

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    Pressure low (ish) too.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Mod Note : posts deleted, stay on topic please.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    A screaming northerly next Tuesday. The Greenland Express 🚆

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Longing


    Much better placement of the high on the GFS compared to the 06z run. Opens the door for a strong northerly and holds off the high. Much better even for snow. Hope the ECM is on the same track.

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    +201 hours. Minus 10 uppers nearly at the North coast. Lovely FI!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭almostthere12


    So that's the ICON, GFS and UKMO having us going back into -4 or -8 uppers by next Tuesday, also some heights building towards Greenland, very interesting to watch all of the changes over the last few days............now what will the GFS ensembles say!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Interestingly, the ICON has Sunday's adopt less of a northeasterly track with its centre pivoting off our south coast keeping cooler uppers in place for the northern half of the island.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,605 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    You want snow Gonzo. I sense your frustration. It will be a pity if the weather does get cold again after a mild blip and we don't get snow before the New Year, but I still would be happy to have cold and frosty over wet and mild anyday. The ECM and GEM are not having it though. Although maybe the ECM this evening might move towards the GFS and UKMO. I certainly hope so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Niall145


    Plenty of snow on that latest GFS run, next Tuesday/Wednesday could be interesting if it verifies!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Theres always a kick in the goolies isn’t there.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Derekon2021


    And



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Less said about the ECM the better 🤮



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Derekon2021


    And that's a right kick in the balls!! A raging conveyor belt of muck......


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    No surprise tonights ECM is awful. The ECM 42 day extended forecast which is updated every Monday and Friday is now showing a mild trend between now and end of January. Of course this forecast changes every few days to something completely different but right now the ECM ensembles is doubling down on mild.



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