Tesla Model Y

That message is a pain.(the blocked camera one)

Blocked by darkness, too much light, the "wrong kind" of light, blah blah.

My Q4 is giving the same message about safety assist systems disabled due to camera blocked during this type of weather. Still i do depend on the parking sensors so hope the MY issue os sorted before car arrives

Agreed - I think that they should do what they did with the regen braking unavailable message - have it as an icon at the right hand side of the screen as on my can, I have the blocked camera message for 80% of my driving time...

They should have had the software sorted before moving on to no longer use radar / ultrasound. There's no excuse for this, they rushed it. It wasn't ready. Bad.

That said, from reading / watching a lot more about the vision behind it - pardon the punch 😂 - is that they believe that in full self driving mode the three of these senses might conflict, making it hard for a computer to make a decision. Tesla has a track record of having an open mind and not using what other people use and removing things that aren't absolutely necessary. And after all, us humans do a pretty ok job at driving and we only have our eyes, we don't have radar or ultrasound either.

Again, in Tesla's view, lidar is not one of the human senses, so not needed for driving based on vision only and again possibly conflicting with the outcome of other technology based sensors. Tesla has chosen the path of vision only and if you look at the latest FSD videos, it is doing a remarkable job. Now available in nearly a million cars.

There are rumours that radar will be reinstalled in 2023 cars once they have firmed up supplies from a new manufacturer (in Spanish, but use Google Translate if you need to or see the tweets therein https://forococheselectricos.com/2022/12/tesla-volvera-instalar-radar-coches-2023.html). They dumped these sensors to keep production going while building their Tesla Vision project, but looks like will compromise back a little from camera-everything. Of course, the defense of the new sensors is that they are better than before following the usual tech-speak. They probably are better, but I wonder how it affects cars that already have 'legacy' sensors? Will they keep a branch in the software to retain the use of these as they were?

Oh Tesla wants to maximise profits alright, and they should. That should be the main aim for each and every commercial company in the world. And Tesla are particularly good in removing stuff that is not necessary (in order to make the car simpler, easier and cheaper to make, so more profitable). But I believe that is not their motivation for removing the sensors.

True and you can say a lot of online content, but seems to be a bit of smoke here with it being reported through many sources

https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/07/tesla-appears-to-be-turning-back-to-radar-for-its-vehicles/amp/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmllLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMiqcHPibnBKUbldsijQpE4RKYLOR5lzAIx-xU4aqgtMsfJNEllpDEqjmQZ7c5ql0i9m2HLJjEKwdZlcV6dYd_oKFUjbW9prjaQ_PK-J79DKCzD8qNdWCwA5cW45RRVfPj46Hv6D5j3xCb6mzhReRf66lBLuD-vBkukwlCcaavms

Ahh here.. autonomous driving is an attempt to make things safer from the dangers of human driving. If I could have Lazer eyes I'd take them.

With modern day SW and processing multi sensory maps can be built. You need redundancy of sensors the logic can take the input of the most reliable Input and use another as backup.

Vision only will not work as vision won't catch everything in certain environmental conditions so don't appear on your vision map.

The key to autonomous driving is and will be lidar and that's getting cheaper and cheaper.

They remove things based on cost only, also looks like their vision bet will not work and regulators will never buy it either for fully Autonomous driving (at least until all cars on the road at fully autonomous). The biggest danger to autonomous cars will not be other autonomous it will always be clowns behind steering wheels using their "human super vision"