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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,087 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Looking at the picture it's not easy to say what's happening, yeah the concrete is deteriorating, but what's under it ? Is that a second layer of harder concrete ? Is it steel and hollow ? Could it be foam ( would love If it was ,but unlikely ,)

    Still reckon a tank with a dozer blade would shunt these out of tbe way in seconds , and if they could be used as ballast to fill an anti tank ditch then all the better ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,542 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Is this the same Jeffrey Sachs that called for a ceasefire in June? And blames the US and NATO for starting the war? The same Jeffrey Sachs that is a shill for the Chinese government? That same Jeffrey Sachs that was constantly criticising Fauci and the vaccine mandates while demanding that the vaccine manufacturers give it away to 3rd world countries for free?

    Yes. Ok. That Jeffrey Sachs can go **** himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,087 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    The US sent himars ,made sense because they could fly them in,

    everyone else sent m270 's ,same thing but bigger and tracked , who knows wether those were restricted or not , probably were .. I think they were all "upgraded" before shipping ..

    The Boeing/Saab proposal to re-warhead the older non guided rockets ,that are all scheduled for destruction anyway could be a god send for Ukraine ,potentially longer range, small warhead , potential to be guided ,

    And most importantly cheap (er,) and thousands of them could be churned out quick , they could end up replacing air power in assaults ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Skimping on the cement or thickness more likely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,087 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Hard to read the channel name in the corner of my phone screen .

    Kleptocracy now ?

    Oligarchy now ?

    Propagandist now ?

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,087 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    F'ing hell just listened to the rest of that video , the guys an apologist , that is a well "crafted " piece ,carefully put together to put a nice gloss on how poor old softie russia had to invade ..

    In a slightly different era he'd be looking for the beautification of Beria ,

    I'm amazed at far down a rabbit hole these guys ( who claim to see things as they are ) can go ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭timmyntc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    There were some videos of tanks running into these before, the concrete teeth sink into the ground as pressure is applied to the front due to the angles, and the mucky fields just swallow the bottom half of the "dragon tooth" until it will not budge at all.

    You'd need a reverse dozer blade, to hit the top of the post before the bottom so you can try tip them over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    We've known about the HiMars since day one ,they were also modified so if they got ATACms through 3rd parties they still wouldn't be able to lunch them from Ukraine,

    Post edited by Gatling on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    The Russians waited two hours. The Turkish army refuses to conduct a patrol with the Russian forces in Al-Hasakah


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Was an obvious choice, but adding the spirit of Ukraine as a testament to the resilience of the Ukrainian people is a nice touch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    This murderer always looked evil



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Ah, that shower of scapegoat-ologists for undemocratic regimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,460 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    And was an adviser to pre-breakaway Poland, then the USSR under Yeltsin.

    He has some good anti-poverty ideas. Not sure they translate to diplomacy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,087 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I'd seen several pics that had the steel positioning loop still on Them , would have thought they'd be able to be towed , out of the way several at a time ,

    But yeah there has to be some thought behind them , I suppose if it limits the number of places an attack can come from , and what vehicles can be used , as well as leaving an assault waiting in line of sight of artillery then it's working ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Small piece from the Guardian regarding Kyiv at the moment. Looks like they intercepted the missiles that were headed to the capital



    In his office in Kyiv’s city hall, mayor Vitali Klitschko is planning for the worst and hoping for the best.

    The previous day, in the middle of the sixth mass Russian missile strike against Ukrainian cities that had sent Kyiv’s resident to the bomb shelters and metro stations, no rockets had made it through to hit the capital.

    On the mayor’s desk is a newspaper he has had produced and distributed around the city in recent days. Bearing his name, and the headline “We will overcome and win”, it lists all the emergency services in Kyiv that will be available in case of what should be unthinkable but isn’t: the failure of all power and services to a city of 3 million in the depths of Ukraine’s winter.

    The mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, said: ‘They want to freeze the civilian population. They want … to have a Ukraine without Ukrainians.’


    The mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, said: ‘They want to freeze the civilian population. They want … to have a Ukraine without Ukrainians.’ Photograph: Thomas Peter/Reuters

    Across three densely printed pages are supermarkets with generators that will work in that emergency, the post offices and banks, and arrangements for public transit.

    It lists the 45 underground metro stations that will remain open as shelters and provide phone charging and internet, as well as tips for surviving a prolonged blackout.

    “It’s for the worst-case scenario,” says Klitschko, a former world champion boxer turned politician, picking up the paper.

    We need to tell people what they need to do if the situation becomes critical and they don’t have internet and connection to media.

    Life in the city can often seem largely normal outside of the massive airstrikes that have been taking place, often weekly, since 20 October. Restaurants are busy and the streets are jammed with traffic at close to prewar levels, but with the first snow on the ground and the temperature hitting -8C this week, life in the capital is also overshadowed by the risk of a humanitarian crisis.

    “Thanks to our military, they knocked out all the missiles fired at Kyiv yesterday,” says Klitschko.

    But it was only two weeks ago we came close to a total blackout. Then the temperature was above freezing but imagine the same situation if it happened now when it is close to -10 outside and with no electricity water, or heating. The consequences would be disastrous.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    From the Mayor of Kyiv


    “I’m not Nostradamus so I’m not ready to give an answer about the timing of when this war will end but I know that we will win. I’ll tell you why. It’s a rule of war that people will die in battle. But what’s most important is the motivation for fighting.

    “There has been no real explanation to Russian soldiers of why they fight. So they are fighting for money. We are ready to die for our family and children. All of us. We are fighting for our children’s future, for democracy and human rights. Because we don’t want to live in a country that is a jail that is built by Putin. It’s why our soldiers would rather die than bend the knee.”"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    I had a horrible feeling they might pick Putin this year since he's been the main instigator of all of the terrible events that have occurred (and since Hitler was picked one year). Glad they went with Zelenskyy though. Incredible story especially if you consider his position just a year ago and unimaginable if you go back only 4 years.

    This invasion will always be what defines him though and cometh the hour, cometh the man. The speech that he gave on the night of the 23rd of February where he addressed the Russian soldiers themselves was something else. He told them not to come but if they did then they would die in Ukraine. The Ukrainian armed forces made sure that he lived up to his word. He didn't take the option to flee. He's made sure to be visible and to communicate to his people constantly. He hasn't been afraid to take tough decisions when it comes to removing personnel. he's constantly badgered governments from around the world and made sure that Ukraine has not been forgotten. He's hosted dozens of leaders personally and visited troops on the front. In short he's played a blinder and has made Putin look all the more like the aged, scared, aloof tyrant that he is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    We are speaking specifically about Russia here, and the Himars destined for Ukraine in its defense against Russia, and in this specific context, the US has put range limitations on the weapons they supply as they do not want the war to escalate further. Other Customers buying these weapons will not be under the same limitation's and will specify what ranges the require. And then unless it breaches the US own security rules, the will supply them as per Customers requirements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And why not? after all, they planned to recover Alaska too from the theft in 1867, that deal amounted to whole sale robbery, but it will be put right. ( came from the 2 muppeteers, Solovyov and Margarita)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    The wagnerites are claiming to have taken yakovlivka, NE of soledar



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    Crazy and irresponsible strike on airbase in Russia that houses nuclear weapons. Ukraine have shelled ZNPP several times also. No wonder USA have modified the HIMARS system to not be able to fire long range missiles, some of the other Baltic states have them so might be supplied to Ukraine. Looks like the USA doesn't trust Ukraine and have been proven correct by the recent behavior of Ukraine striking at nuclear areas. Why would they do this kind of strike if they are winning against Russia? Consequences don't align with a strategy that is effective and pushing Russia out of their territory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    What are they doing attacking Russian air bases? It should be bloody obvious to you that they are trying to disrupt the Russian war machine that launches missile attacks on Ukrainian citizens from these bases. These are military targets and the more that go up in smoke the better for us all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I assume the legions of Putin bots are in absolute meltdown......lots of "Azov Nazis", "eight years of genocide in the Donbass", "Ukraine is corrupt" and so on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    You're asking why would Ukraine target the aircraft that are illegally bombing their country?

    The missile silos at the Engels 2 base are 5 kilometers from the runway that was targeted.

    engels_2.png


    Oh, and this hasn't aged well, has it Charlie?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    They can legitimately carpet bomb Moscow as far as I'm concerned and I'd still class it as self defense. The Russians have given them carte blanche to do as they please, they won't but it would be completely fair if they did.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The new thing now amongst the trolls is that Ukraine and Europe is freezing to death this winter,Ukraine have lost 100k soldiers and Zelensky will surrender or go to peace talks,oh and Bakhmut have fallen 7 times allready.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    While the strike may seem to many to be reckless, it was, in fact, a strategically masterful play on the part of Ukraine. The drones allegedly used in the strike are highly accurate, despite their age, and the target's were clearly a show of capability towards Russia, given the impact point.

    The consequences have been 3-fold.

    1. The stragetic bombers are now being moved to other dispersal bases to protect them. This causes further logistical disruption to Russia.

    2. The attack has highlighted further failures in Russia's strategic air-defences, where large, highly significant sections of airspace are clearly unprotected.

    3. The attack has also forced Belarus to move their military assets from their current positions and I wouldn't be surprised to see the IL-76's stationed in Belarus and indeed Kaliningrad moved further inland.

    Regarding the Nuclear arms, they couldn't be safer. First of all, you could detonate a MOAB over them and they wouldn't attain nuclear fusion. That's not how nuclear weapons work.

    Secondly, the weapons are stored in two main areas. One in a recently renovated bunker 7km away from Engels and a second, central storage area about 36km from the base.

    Both bunkers are protected from a direct Nuclear strike and have blast-doors that ate thousands of tonnes in weight.

    Ukraine attacked, in a pre-emptive defensive strike, with a relatively small warhead that caused little physical damage, but massive psychological damage.

    The strike was pre-emptive in that the base was about to launch another, highly illegal attack against a sovereign nation's civilian infrastructure, essentially rendering an entire population defenseless against the coming winter. Genocide by proxy, in my mind.

    Does it sit well with you that Russia continues to commit horrendous atrocities against the civilians of Ukraine without any response or recourse? Is it OK that women and children die in the hundreds of thousands during the coming winter due to lack of heat, so long as no strikes against an aggressive Russia takes place.?

    I've a good mind to send you some pictures of my time in Damascus and Allepo that demonstrate the pure evil ruthlessness of the Russian male soldier. A soldier without empathy nor fear of consequences for his actions, driven by money and a deep, psychopathic desire to kill

    Russia will never stop. It is the West's prime responsibility to drive Russia back to the 1930's in terms of military capabilities and to subdue a leader and a nation who have lost touch with their humanity and reality.



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