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FI Charts ( T120+ onwards) Winter 2022/2023 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST POST**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


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    I see a whole lot more than a 2-3 day cold spell, the ensemble mean is far below average. The op is a warm outlier towards the end and the control is a cold outlier at the end- showing us what happens if that sub tropical low dives south east. I’d be keeping an eye to our North East for mid-month. 👀

    The teleconnections are all solid and supportive of an extended spell, uncertainty is very high at the moment though, and will continue that way until the models get to grips with that low to our South West. I would bet the models will eventually flatten and elongate this low into Europe, many op runs will continue to blow it up in the meantime though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭spoonerhead


    Lashing now in Dublin & along most of the east coast



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    ECM is a beauty @ +120hrs

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Awesome ECM as expected with much colder uppers!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,606 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Yes, usually such systems are corrected south in the end when coming up against colder air, and the GFS, as you indicate, shows the cold spell could be around for a while, especially if the Greenland high makes move towards Scandinavia then perhaps towards mid month it could lead to a Beasterly.Then again it would not surprise if we do get a milder interlude, but i think we would all take that if what followed was the Siberian snow train making its way towards us



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Latest Ecm is very close to what it was showing during the week. Another repeat performance tomorrow will be a big step toward confirming a potent cold spell (by typical Irish winter standards) for the second half of next week.


    Edit add on: And only if backed up by the ensembles due out in an hour or so

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭bazlers


    I like, much better uppers. Previously to this run i would have expected a slushy mess, but now could be something a little special if it holds form.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Niall145


    Both ECM and GFS showing an area of snow over Dublin early Thursday morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    ECM not splitting up the cold pool between Europe and Asia, keeping it colder and stronger for longer. Very good run so far

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,606 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Fantastic ECM. I don't want to be seen to ramp but there is potential for something significant to happen- a kind of high risk/high reward scenario with that meandering low if the ECM has this right. I wish we could fast forward to tomorrow evening's run.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    ECM looking much better and hopefully a decent pub run later tonight. Tomorrows runs should hopefully provide an even better insight to where we stand over the next 7 to 10 days.

    Not looking for a 2010 here as I think that is a bit unrealistic considering how rare of an event that was, however I think a February 2009 style event should be achieveable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    A clear switch in the EC mean again this evening with it keeping the lows further south again and us in a more cooler NE flow:


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    Yesterday, it showed that low more to our west.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Agree with Gonzo. Nearer term Thursday potentially a day to watch for a more organised band of snow moving south. It's more uncertain for after that with very narrow margins between deeper cold and something more benign.

    This time tomorrow I'm thinking we'll have more confidence in how things might unfold and thread time! Hopefully😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Once that low stays the hell out of the way is the main thing. Could/ should be a lenghty spell of cold if it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Today was a near perfect winter's day. Very, almost ominously, dull (but in a nice way) and very dry with that sort of crispy, feel good outdoor smell that was far more common in my youth. I'll gladly sacrifice any snow or even frost in favour of weather like this and hopefully more of it to come in the near future.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


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    Very cold next Saturday night with -7 forecast, but with the GFS you can usually take off another 1c or 2c. Over snow fields could go lower, a -10c to -12c possible?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    The operational 12z GFS was quite a mild outlier. Have a look at the control run here:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 snowfan50


    Looks like Joe Bastardi is on the money , does no one else here follow him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    I don't think there is a bias towards him, but he's always biased himself regarding cold potential in winter. He more often than not overeggs the pie in my opinion.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,549 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    He could be right about much of Europe yet Ireland could still miss out which was what we ultimately focus on here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 snowfan50


    Sometimes too you have to give credit where credits due, I know it's all about opinions and forecasting for Ireland is extremely tricky.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I know exactly what you mean; there was a "feel" today that I hadn't sensed in a long time. A healthy feel (sorry for being OT!).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Like a broken clock, he's bound to be right now and again. In general he's just a ramper with emptiness behind it.

    Anyway as the cold is more or less guaranteed maybe time to look at snow chances. For my location we don't do great, Northern counties look best favoured and surely Dublin region will come into the mix. In general its looking dry a lot of the time but bitterly cold. After the last few weeks potential ice days will come as quite a shock. Also of course roads and fields are saturated and with them freezing over could make back road driving quite dangerous!

    A lot of talk about 2010 but lest not forget Storm Emma in 2018 I think which delivered much more in the way of snow for Cork. Of course it was 1st March so the drip drip was always on our mind. You can't beat a cold spell in Dec/Jan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Joe Bastardi has predicted **** all, because it hasn't happened yet.

    Bastardi, like a stopped clock, will be right occasionally, but certainly not because of rigorous science. He's a spoofer and a charlatan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Who's he? That the post man from donegal or what



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭mcburns07




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Would ye all not have anything better to do on a Saturday night other than giving some American self-claimed prophetic "weather guru" more attention?

    Get your priorities straight. The 18Z GFS is rolling out.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,663 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Mod Note : Need to keep it on topic .

    This thread for FI charts discussion ( T120+ onwards ) all other conversation in appropriate threads please.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    18z spruces up the cold around the Day 5 mark, next Thursday, as that front/precip approaches from the north. Could be v.snowy in the northern half of the country.

    The storm out in the Atlantic is an absolute monster (edit: though definitely overcooked on the 18z!...surely). Until the models come to grips with what it will do, there will be plenty of chopping and changing. It may help us, it may prolong the cold if slides harmlessly into France and keeps us with chilly E/NE winds, maybe it will stall and stay put well out of the way...or it could push too far north and ruin it all! Definitely no hype from me just yet in terms of a long spell, too much to nail down before that. Good shot of a snowy period before that though into next Thursday!

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    Also shout out to the mods. A tireless task, with their own spare time - especially when it's getting busy. I'd be up the walls with grown adults (I assume!) not being able to comprehend the frequent simple requests to keep her technical in the relevant threads.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,446 ✭✭✭pauldry


    All I know is that I'll be saying late next week how is it still raining even though its so cold. Those blue charts are misleading for me. There are several mild sectors and sneaky messy brief Northwesterly sourced Atlantic air which will only bring rain and sleet here to coastal Sligo. Inland areas of the county will fare better with some snowfall.

    Itl all be gone by Sunday night though so Thursday to Sunday with some brief mild periods means a lot of slush and some morning snows possible.



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