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Saving/Applying for a mortgage 2020-22 Edition

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭snowcat


    Thats expensive for your costs but either way if you are in trouble in your job which you want your mortgage to cover. You will be in even worse trouble when the bank takes your 380k house for a mortgage of 80k that you cannnot afford to pay and sells it for 200k and you are left without a house and homeless and gives you 120k before their costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 FA12345


    We sent our application into PTSB on 26th September, still waiting !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    Really ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    As in still waiting on AIP or to what stage are you at? Not the news I wanted to hear hahaha



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    A bit over the top here.

    The house is worth 350k and the mortgage would be 80k. That means the person would have almost 80% worth of equity in the house.

    An 80k mortgage at even 4% over 20 years is 435 a month. That is an easy mortgage to pay back. And this is Ireland where repossessions are very rare, especially if it's a family home, which this may well be.


    Once you have a mortgage of that size, you can overpay and easily have it paid off in a few years.

    The mortgage is just a thing to get over the shortfall for now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭monaghanmissus


    They seem to be desperately slow! BOI have had our documents for 2 weeks now and keep coming back every 2 days looking for more but we're no closer to going to underwriter. EBS on the other hand were 4 days for underwritten AIP. Found them very speedy.

    On that note, has anyone any experience with EBS as a mortgage provider? I've never banked with them before so curious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    I've had a look at EBS. They have high fixed interest rates compared to BOI and PTSB which may be why they have a quicker turn around.

    We went sale agreed based on our AIP with BOI, while also waiting on AIP from PTSB. Is this normal or how long do you think we will have until the EA is asking us for the valuation? We had an email from the solicitor saying they will proceed once they have the sale deposit receipt and the loan offer.. which means they are waiting on our bank loan offer.

    Any body else have and light to shed if this is normal? How long does it take from sale agreed to having the keys ? 8-12 weeks?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭This is it


    5 weeks waiting for PTSB, broker has advised another 10 business days, it's with the underwriters now. A question for our broker obviously but I'm wondering now, is it just underwritten AIP I'll be getting... I presume that's as good as a loan offer as far as accounts, credit checks, etc go and then it's property dependent?

    We haven't found a property yet, waiting for AIP.



  • Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭WhiteWalls


    Any update on BOI time lines?


    Not sure of the correct wording here but I sent in my final documents today, I'm sale agreed and looking for contract to be sent out by bank to my solicitor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    Ye I'm at the same stage. I rang up yesterday and was told they have started to prep my file for the underwriter which takes about 4 days. Then they said it could be 6 to 10 days for the underwriter to approve if there's no issue.


    I'm also anxious if the house seller get annoyed and pulls out if they don't see any progress. I still need to get the house valuated but I was hoping PTSB would get back to me first as they have the lower interest rate. I'll update you once I head back from BOI. I'm trying to buy some time as the banks seems very slow



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    Yes our broker said the PTSB AIP is approved by their underwriters as they review all documents before giving AIP unlike BOI etc.


    I would add another 2 weeks or so if you do find a house and need to get it valuated, surveyed etc. They won't issue a loan offer until the property is valuated, then the solicitor does their bit which can take a while...


    5 weeks for PTSB ! When did your broker send the documents off?



  • Registered Users Posts: 18 deedeedee24


    I was 6 weeks waiting for PTSB underwritten AIP. Applied Sept. 26th.



  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭tippingpoint


    I am in the same situation. Had AIP with BOI and went sale agreed. They were very slow to prepare the file for the underwriter and kept coming back every few days for more documents, even ones which had already been uploaded.

    Application finally went to the underwriters last week. I was told 5 to 7 working days for a decision. On day 8 now but still no word from them!

    Editing to say that we finally got the underwriters approval from BOI at lunch time today.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 860 ✭✭✭crinkley


    Quick question that actually wont apply until next year. Myself and my partner are both in probation which we will be out of next September so can't apply until then, we will have 35k saved for a deposit and are planning a self build. I'm not planning on drawing down the mortgage until the new year (2024) as we will then qualify for the full 30k help to buy. Can we start the process in september/october hoping to draw down in January or will they not consider the 30k help to buy until we can show we certainly will qualify (we will have our return for all years and our payslips will show we will be over the necessary amount by the time we are applying)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    Hey congrats!! It took them 4 days to prep our file for the underwriter and they didn't ask us any questions about our documents.... not even deductions on my payslip for a stock programme I pay into with the job. I'm expecting the underwriter to ask a few things.


    Did the underwriter ask you anything? We were told 5 to 10 days for approval, really hoping this comes through as my PTSB application has risen to 3.25 percent from 2.35.



  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭tippingpoint


    No the underwriter didn't ask any questions at all. Our mortgage advisor had asked loads though and asked for extra documents so I was expecting the underwriter wouldn't need to ask anything else!

    Fingers crossed you get approval with BOI! The rate increases are a pain.



  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭JimmyCorkhill


    Can anyone explain in simple language why when I go on switcher.ie and enter in a house price 500k, mortgage for 25 years for 350k that why the indicative APRC is at 2.54% with Avant for the 2.55% 4 year fixed rate while the indicative APRC is at 3.6% for the BOI 2.45% 4 year Fixed rate?

    I know what APRC stands for but just dont understand why the APRC is a lot higher for BOI.

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    That's because BOI (in this case) charge a higher rate of interest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭dubal


    The APRC is based on the whole term of the mortgage. Avant have a low variable rate at present - which in theory you would switch to after your fixed rate expires until the end of your mortgage.

    If as would be prudent you look to switch or fix when your planned fixed interest rate expires, this number is largely irrelevant.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭JimmyCorkhill


    Thank you, clear explanation.

    As you said, once the fixed term is about to expire one would likely switch to wherever the cheapest rate is.



  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭monaghanmissus


    After having the documents for the guts of two weeks, BOI application finally went to the underwriter today. Hopefully will have a decision soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    Did you go through a broker ?


    They had my documents for about 8 days. It went to the underwriter last firday. Hoping to hear back next week which they said about 8 days.


    Did they ask you any questions prior to going to the underwriter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭TheGunns


    Applying with BOI also, any idea how long it stays at 'Preparing application for underwriter review' stage?



  • Registered Users Posts: 18 deedeedee24




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    Took 5 days for us ! They rang back and asked for the back of our driver licenses.. and then that was it. On day 6 now for the underwriter review...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭TheGunns


    Looks like it'll be sent Monday to underwriter for us, told us they have all they need!

    I presume once it's through underwriter then it goes to issuing loan documents to sign?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    Ye we have been told the underwriter may come back on any querys but we have a straight forward case ( good fixed income, healthy deposit, no kids, overdrafts etc etc).

    It's about 10 days and then they can issue a loan offer if you are sale agreed. I've already had our property valuated and mortgage protection secured just to speed things up.

    Then from what I understand your solicitor can review the loan offer and other details with the property and contracts etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭AutoMan79


    Hoping to get a loan offer by end of the next week so wondering if anyone had discussion with their solicitor about putting a clause "Subject to Loan" to have a layer of protection regarding 10% deposit that is paid to the vendor. Hope I am wrong here but I have an impression that banks can request all sorts of documentations, even after the contracts are signed. Maybe I am overthinking but wouldn't be pleasant to loose 50K.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Our solicitor had that In contracts for our purchase, just in case for any reason the bank decided to withdraw the offer or our circumstances chanced



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭CIP4


    Anyone drawdown with PTSB recently did it take long from when the solicitor requested the funds from the bank to when they released them to the Solicitor ? I know they have to do final checks just trying to gauge how long that takes ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭This is it


    Seems to be a standard clause, I wouldn't proceed unless it was in the contract.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Tangerine9


    Anyone else waiting a long time for underwriter approval with Bank of Ireland? It's been over 3 weeks since it transitioned from "preparing application for underwriter review". We had to upload documents again that we've previously submitted earlier in the process but our mortgage specialist has said we have everything in now. We have our snag and survey done so it's the only thing holding us up. With initial AIP received in early September we are finding this very frustrating with the sluggish document requests. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭JimmyCorkhill


    Edit.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    We were told 10 to 12 days. Currently day 8 now and we havnt had any feedback. I'm assuming this is good but could be wrong.


    Did the underwriter ask you for anything further?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Tangerine9


    Hopefully it's a bit quicker for you. No request for documentations except for basic documents like ID and current account statements that we have already been submitted. The morgage special said there is a tenancy for them to get lost in the morgage hub system when it's transitioning from one stage to the next. I will keep you posted if we hear anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97



    I just checked my mortgage hub account today( Day 9), it seems all my documents have been assessed and accepted except for the PPSN documents. I also now have a tab under these documents called repayment ability, which has been assessed and accepted, Green ticks beside all documents.

    Waiting on a phone call now as I assume they have reviewed everything.



  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭monaghanmissus


    Our application with BOI has been with the underwriter for 8 days now but no word yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97


    Ours just got approved today, it was 10 days in total.


    We were told that the issuing of the loan offer to the solicitor will take about a week or so due to big backlogs and the December 9th deadline for people drawing down on previous interest rates.


    We signed our side of the loan offer today how ever as they sent this straight over to our emails.



  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭monaghanmissus


    10 business days or 10 days in total? Got a generic e-mail from them yesterday that they're experiencing huge delays and we'd have a decision within 10 business days. Bit ridiculous.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 awjeez


    Anyone have any recent experience with Finance Ireland? We're in the process of selling our house to someone who's with Finance Ireland. They negotiated a discount on the place based on their survey, which we accepted, but that was back at the beginning of October and we're still waiting for their updated loan offer to come through. Apparently, all FI needs to do is send the updated loan offer pack to our purchaser's solicitor, but we heard that almost 10 working days ago. Is this normal for FI, or should we be worried?

    We were really hoping to be in our new home by Christmas, but with all these delays, it's seeming less and less likely...! 😬



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Dylan97




  • Registered Users Posts: 6 bluegiant4


    Our application went to the underwriter at the Bank of Ireland on the 17th of November and we are still waiting. We were also told to wait 10 business days but clearly that timeline has lengthened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭COH


    100% normal.

    Finance Ireland are an absolute nightmare to deal with... everything with them takes forever.



  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭monaghanmissus


    Just checked and ours went to underwriter on Nov 22nd so I'm 3 business days behind you! Very frustrating at this stage! Nothing from PTSB either. Have AIP from EBS but they're slightly dearer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭This is it


    Went to PTSB underwriters on November 16th, got AIP on December 1st. They had our application a good while before that, would have to check dates, thankfully that bit out of the way.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 bluegiant4


    We got it yesterday evening. Hopefully, you will have yours by the end of the week. Good luck



  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭monaghanmissus


    Just to update, got AIP with BOI this morning! Thank goodness.



  • Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭WhiteWalls


    Thee bank has passed the case to credit and we will have an update within 7-10 working days.

    Anyone be able to tell me what this means?!



  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Bada Bing Boy


    Anyone experience BOI looking for a guarantee of future employment?

    Work in the Tech industry and bank concerned about downturn, what a joke! Directly employed for years.

    Application is with the underwriter and was on course to drawdown today, they have came back with this at the last minute



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  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭Jasna1982


    No, I work in the IT industry and was able to drawdown 2 days ago without them asking for this

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