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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Would it not just be like a LL its a small world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,815 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    If Toy Show The Musical bombs, I can't wait to hear Tubs talk about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    'Toy Show the Musical' sounded like as good an idea as 'Gerry Ryan: A one man show'...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,881 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Hugh Linehan slams successive governments for long-fingering a decision on RTE funding

    we’ve had 14 years of investigations, reports, strategic evaluations, working groups, commissions, pauses for reflection, unexpected delays and all the other paraphernalia of prevarication and obfuscation which the State’s apparatus deploys when faced with a choice it really, really doesn’t want to make.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Poor auld Forbesy - She's going to have to release the top 10 ten earner figs for 2020 soon, right in the middle of a massive CoL crisis and today's JNLR figs. The optics will be appalling. It's nearly 2 years since she released the 2019 figs (in Jan 2021 iirc) She probably thought about releasing the figs on the 24th of Feb this year but was advised against it.

    I've mentioned the three card trick a few times now - it's basically a slight of hand that she's doing which involves making the contractors take more holidays while filling in with replacement contractors that cost almost as much. Total production costs for the show (that we pay for) remain the same but the heavy hitters look like they took a cut in fee rates.

    I posted the below in the Darcy thread a few months ago re another theory I had, so just copied and pasted here:

    Forbes 'the management speak waffler', may be waiting an extra amount of time to publish the 2020 top 10 figs as her Nov 2019 announcement of a 15% cut didn't work out at all. Her whole plan was based on the 'Three card trick'. FA holidays were taken in 2020. Duffy was probably forced at gun point to take a week off/or they locked him out for a week.

    This will be proof that the fees were NOT reduced. So I suspect her plan is to publish 2020 and 2021 at the same time (end of this year) and when asked about her big 15% cut bollocks, she can deflect to the 2021 figs which will be marginally down as more hols were taken.


    The other version of the 'Three card trick' is the 'Three cups trick' - Dee prefers the 'Three cups trick' variation, the only problem with that is she learned everything she knows about it from this guy :-



    Couldn't embed that gif for some reason

    Anyway, the freeloading bullsh!tter is just counting down the days til she can gtfo of the place and run off with the €2.5m and the big pension she got for doing fa for 7 years.

    EDIT: Jaysus, she'd never try to get to the end of her freeloading stint without releasing the figs would she?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    maybe if they did not pay for this.

    we’ve had 14 years of investigations, reports, strategic evaluations, working groups, commissions

    They might actually have some money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    In fairness many of the reports were paid for by the Government.

    The problem with Hugh Linehan's article is that the fails to examine the problems in RTÉ over the last 15 years and fails to point out that over the last 5 or so years RTÉ has had a variety of income returned to them from "TG4 portion of the licence fee" to "the removal of the NSO from RTÉ".

    Hugh Linehan and many seem to forget that in season 13 of the series RTÉ was given the go ahead to move the NSO over the NCH and that in season 12 and 13 they had had discussions of this move with their counterparts in the NCH. And that for all their crying during season 14 about their income they failed to move the NSO over to the NCH, which didn't happen until season 15 meaning they lost 7m or so in the delayed process.

    It puts RTÉ as a beacon of light in how it and media is run in the country. It fails to point out the mismanagement of the services over the last decade and a half.

    It's funny (my previous pseudonym here on boards.ie) possible quote the following from a letter I wrote as I got mad as hell in a Peter Finch like moment of my own which said: -

    If your conclusion is to only to provide a “clear pathway to reform the TV Licence system” so that RTÉ may “return to a stable financial position” and fulfill their “public service remit”, while “sustaining much of what they do today” then I call on you to ask the Government to reform the method of collection before the end of the month. To drag the licence fee payer and the audience through a nine month wait on a predetermined decision is wasteful. 


    On the other hand, if actual reform can be delivered with the input of the audience I wait patiently for the Commission’s report and the subsequent reforms being made without hesitation by the government of the day.


    However, and with the greatest of respect, the Commission has already failed the audience. The quick announcement of public participation during the biggest pandemic that the world has ever seen, but also during the Christmas period when most people will have families and other important thoughts on their mind.  

    But sure Moya is the elite and she got a response from the Taoiseach. She now exits RTÉ after 7 years, during those seven years she agree: -

    1. To cut funding to children's programming
    2. To cut funding to drama and comedy
    3. To buy in an over priced star of a competitor
    4. To continue to fund 2FM through the lience fee
    5. To fail to cut funding to 2FM
    6. To axe DAB transmissions
    7. To fail to axe imported programming costs
    8. To cut news bulletins from RTÉ ONE in the morning and 2fm in the Evening, and drop news from RTÉ2
    9. To make no reforms to pay
    10. To make no structural reforms in RTÉ



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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,321 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    When the reality in RTE that the popularity of tickets to the Toy Show LLS is based on each audience member getting for free a haul of prizes worth circa €500 a head and pretty much nothing towards the actual show will hurt deeply as de Musical show collapses in reality of it being a ball of overpriced sheite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    From what I've gathered, and this is coming from someone who hasn't watched the LLS Toy show in over a decade, there's no longer any actual toys or games being shown on the show. I know that was a problem because of Covid, but afterwards... instead, Ryan did what he always does- milk the misery, instead.

    When did the 'Toy' show become the 'Tears' show? You see so many people on twitter talking about it, and being all like 'crying at my desk'... it's just sheer misery. He brings on some child who's spent Christmas in Hospital, or has a very rare disease that means they're allergic to toys, and suddenly Tubridy is making the viewers bawl.. then reminding folks to donate to a fundraiser... often by signing up with an app that's kinda dodgy to donate. Then proclaiming the viewership 'the best ever'... with numbers that are inflated or made up.

    Devious manipulation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,368 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    There are toys on the show ffs. I'm no defender of RTE and certainly not Tubridy but if you haven't watched a show in a decade or more then maybe don't pontificate about what is or is not on that show.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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    You can tell tubridy arrives at his desk at 8.55 and has notes on his desk that he reads out without ever looking at them before



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I have enough people to tell me about it-and how there's less and less toys every year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Having watched Tubs on the Toy show it has become less about the toys and more about his ego. Songs and acts have become important... but so to have the tragedies of the children, along with at least one very precocious child. Rather than it being The Late Late Toy Show it has consistently over the last decade become The Late Late Toy Man Show.

    I'd believe the viewing figures, but it is really all RTÉ have at this point. TLLS has been massively down in terms of audience this season, while Ask Me Anything should never have been renewed (I read the new Head of Entertainment's praise of the show on linkedin and was thinking "how did you ever get to work for the BBC").

    I don't think a week has gone by with out Tubs mentioning or RTÉ mentioning the toy show. From Penney's toy show pjs to the money raised for good causes and from the child with the tragic story to the Toy Show The Musical... it is consistent and boring at this point.

    The Musical was badly timed when you consider the cost of living, parents will make choices over the next few weeks as to what and what not to get, and I feel an over priced panto will be last on their list, it terrible for all involved, regardless of my curmudgeonly posts I honest hope it does well for their sake.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I believe Dee Forbes has a similar 'worked for the BBC' dept... but in the accounts division. She doesn't know entertainment, or scouting talent or folks who have the 'IT' factor. I mean, she thought D'arcy's hiring was a coup.

    I caught about ten minutes of the repeat of Angela Scanlan show, with Mary Berry being interviewed. My brother and me were sitting there like 'who's the plastic barbie sitting next to her?'... Turns out it was Rosanna Davison.

    Christ, the amount of work she's had done 😦😦😦... must be prepping for a book or a show on the RTE player.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Nearly I don't think she ever made it to the BBC, she was in a managerial position in Discovery and prior to her time in Discovery she was in Advertising. It's only about money for her, she hasn't a grasp of TV or Radio. Discovery is a completely different proposition.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,368 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Having watched Tubs on the Toy show it has become less about the toys and more about his ego.

    Oh I agree but the other poster said there were no toys on the show!

    I don't think there's any way back for the LLS now. Tubs has killed RTE's golden goose and he seems intent on staying with the corpse until the last bit of it has rotted away.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭jelutong


    Daily Mirror exclusive. RTÉ Radio one boss Peter Woods fears he will lose two major stars, Duffy and Tubs to rival stations .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    And the article finishes with them stating that Tubridy saw the biggest loss of 25k listeners in the recent JNLR.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    George Lee galavanting around Egypt for nearly 2 weeks talking absolute Scutter at our expense!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,815 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Anyone who still thinks the LL toy show is full of toys is delusional.

    Yes of course it has some toys, but only a fraction compared to the shows of the past.

    My own 3 kids have been saying just how few toys are on annually. And it gets lower with each passing year.

    The show exists mainly to further Tubs persona of 'The Toy Man' which he has carefully crafted for himself. To stroke his ego.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,958 ✭✭✭✭retalivity




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,321 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Yes rumours circulating online that Duffy will transfer to FM104's Phoneshow for €750k a year and use of a Jag. RTE are deluded if they think Duffy will go anywhere, he has free run of the place and throws strops if anyone tries to challenge him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I'd be surprised if Duffy went, not sure if liveline would fit with any independents.

    Tubs failed on 2FM's mid-morning show and if Today FM or NewsTalk want him RTÉ should be happy in the knowledge he will most likely fail their, but again I don't see how he fits with either. (in fairness to tubs he did bring Breakfast back to 2FM when he was presenting The Full Irish).

    Just before COP27 I was wondering why George had gone, he seemed to disappear for quite a while.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    That article reads like a joint RTE/NKM collaboration statement pre an imminent 'top 10 paid in RTE' release

    I note Mr Woods is not too worried about losing Ray D'Arcy to rival stations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Ray will be next weeks breaking news, the whole thing is so orchestrated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,751 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    What the hell are they thinking? Joe Duffy is 66. They have had time enough to figure out his replacement.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think you'd be lucky to get the top 10 earners before the end of the year, I suspect that the will give 2020 and 2021 at the beginning of 2023, perhaps stretch it until the new DG has been install and let them deal with the fall out.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭tintin67


    RTE is just the slot. The demographic of elderly petals who would switch to Joe Duffy would be far outweighed by the younger audience who would flee in their droves. RTE only had 2 real superstars who would take listeners with them - Gay Byrne and Gerry Ryan



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