Police called to hotel on day of the National Party AGM

how many people need to be together to form a group in your opinion?

I would imagine it is not unusual for a group to arrive at a hotel while another group has a booking. In fact I would imagine having multiple groups at a hotel while one has a booking is very normal.

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Because the NP have form for attacking people.

Yep, I've already said that I don't know exactly who started it. None of us do.

I have however assumed that if a bus load of people went to the trouble of going there to protest and disrupt the AGM, then they went looking for trouble. I may or may not be correct on that matter.

Why is it interesting that I have made an assumption that one side was the victim and one side is the aggressor? I'm basing it on the balance of probabilities. A bus load of protesters turned up at the AGM. They may have went with the intention of holding a peaceful protest but I personally don't believe that. Because I've assumed that it was the protesters that started it, are you hinting at the fact that I might be an 88 wearing mutherfcuker who aligns with the National Party ideals? Nope, not true. I couldn't give a fcuk about the National Party or their ideals.

Maybe so. I know nothing about them.

I see. A total coincidence that is looks like 88 then. Perhaps they could have made a different one to prevent that kind of conclusion being made by many people online. I guess some people will make up their own minds on it. I'm happy to give them the benefit of doubt...

I think people are probably making that inference due to things like this. Barrett attending a conference run by known Neo Nazis

https://www.rte.ie/news/2002/1011/30826-nice/

They literally were visiting a hotel.

They certainly weren’t organising a protest meeting about a public procession, but I hope you enjoyed your time browsing through the legislation.

Sure.

I strongly doubt that, I strongly doubt there's enough people here who look over at Russia, at Hungary, at parts of the United States and go "yes, I want that too".

The attitude of many left-leaning folks is the 'paradox of tolerance' and the path that 'unlimited free speech' would lead:

"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant."

To paraphrase, the right to Free Speech means the government cannot arrest you for what you say, it doesn't mean that anyone else has to listen to it, or host you while you share it. The constitution doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences. If you're yelled at, boycotted, have your show cancelled, or get banned from an online community that doesn't mean your rights to free speech have been violated, it just means the people listening think you're an a-hole and are showing you the door.

No one ever seems to actually support them or are willing to admit to supporting them, but we keep hearing statements like "they will be a force soon".

I mean if people are too cowardly to even admit anonymously on the internet to supporting them, I very much doubt that this bunch of racist God botherers will be anything like a force ever. It's farcical.

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The Communists and Fascists were close allies longer than they were enemies.

Much of their hatred for each other is driven by the nature of their relationship breakdown, and both are impossible to work with, always splitting and falling out among themselves.

The IRPs have fallen a long way from the time of Costello. A collection of informers, alcoholics, and hoods using the military wing to give them cover.Regardless of the context of this or what you think of it,if you talk to an IRP you are talking to the special branch, that was the way 20 years ago and it has only gotten worse.

The protesters in this instance don't care who was there. They were just told to go there and try to get some eejit down the line lifted.

Pick any of your anti Fascist groups if you want but not this group of informers.

Any confirmation that Barrett and Dwyer were attacked? Asking for a friend who loves laughing when people get their comeuppance.

I don't think the lads on the bus would have brought a fire extinguisher with them. Plenty of fire extinguishers in the hotel though...

Informative.

It is a nationalist and anti-immigration party which has also campaigned against abortion and Covid-19 restrictions.

The party currently has no elected representatives

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Are you in favour of some kind of safe spaces for far right events now?

Where do you think they got the funding to host this kind of event in a very expensive hotel?

Communists and fascists were not allies, have you got an example of when you claim they were?

Was it in Mussolini's fascist Italy or maybe Franco's fascist Spain, no it must have been hitlers fascist Germany were they were allies?