Handwriting decipher thread must post link to full page

VicWynne · 02-06-2022 11:07pm

First off - Many thanks for looking at Michael Carrolls death for me - I feel a lot better that it's not just me.

I agree with spurious that it looks like Knockane.

Thanks again folks

chooseusername · 03-06-2022 9:42am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119145224#Comment_119145224

There’s the name Doyle again, Hanna it looks like, as a witness to the marriage.

Hermy · 03-06-2022 10:58am

I wonder could someone have a go at the cause of death for Peter Cronin, the second last entry on the page...

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1962/04297/4107058.pdf

crossman47 · 03-06-2022 11:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119152791#Comment_119152791

Seems to start with Splenic anaemia. Third line is Cardiac F** ?

55Gem · 03-06-2022 11:16am

Splenic anaemia, ?, Cardiac Failure, Certified.

Splenic anaemia is something to do with the spleen

I though that second line had a x in it so wonder if it could be Cachexia which is a general physical wasting due to disease.

pinkypinky · 03-06-2022 11:55am

Agree with all of that.

@chooseusername - well spotted. It is the same line I'm still working on. The Kerry handwriting needs improvement!!

Mick Tator · 03-06-2022 1:42pm

I agree with cachexia and the last is plain old 'cardiac failure, certified'

Hermy · 04-06-2022 10:25am

Thanks folks - I couldn't see that one at all myself.

Spook_ie · 16-06-2022 1:53pm

I'm of the opinion that it reads

Aplastic Anemia

(Something) maybe a cause of it, do we know what kind of work he was involved in?

Heart failure

Certified

Edit. Was St Joseph's Limerick (death certified at St Joseph's) the local asylum? Maybe a result of treatment if he was in care

https://localstudies.limerick.ie/Library/LocalStudies/LocalStudiesFiles/H/Hospitals/StJosephsHospital/

Deregos. · 28-06-2022 8:15pm

Can someone read and give me just a brief synopsis of this please, no need to translate all the French. I really just want to know why Simon & Joseph Regan are being mentioned in this document. They were farmers who were witnesses to something I think.

https://gw.geneanet.org/flavbalat?n=regan&oc=&p=simon

Hermy · 29-06-2022 8:55am

Deregos, your request might be beyond the scope of the thread.

If so, you might get a better response from the Genealogical Translations Facebook page.

I've used them myself in the past and they are very helpful.

www.facebook.com/groups/GenealogicalTranslations

Mick Tator · 29-06-2022 12:35pm

I agree with Hery, it's very niche.

It’s a French Revolutionary era (1790’s) declaration in Pluviose (January/February) by two Regans and witnessed. The writing is awful, even by the standards of the day and impossible for a non-expert to decipher enough of it to make sense of the document.There is no obvious mention pf one being the son of the other. What was readable

“……..Joseph Regan aged about 54 , a farmer, Simon Regan aged about 25, a farmer both living in the said commune of [something-maximin] declared to me Jean Hyacinth Barrallier that Anne Bouse(sp?) his legitimate wife (“son epouse legitime”) etc. [something] ……spending eight hours in his/her house [ something ] a son told me that he had given the forename Etienne….

Hermy · 29-06-2022 12:40pm

Good man Mick.

Niche it may be but you've more than managed to decipher the gist of the document.

29-06-2022 9:53pm

Accouchee , so Anne Bouse gave birth to Etienne at 8pm on the 11th of the present month.

So it looks like it was Simon's child I think?

Mick Tator · 29-06-2022 11:38pm

Agree that she was “accouchee yesterday at eight hours” – I had a very quick read of it at lunchtime, didn’t spend much time on it so didn't want to jump to conclusions.

“….Etienne. According to that declaration which the citizens Joseph Regan and Simon Regan had declared conforming (?) to the visit and of the (representation?) of the [infant?) which were made I restate in virtue of the powers of a deputy delegate [something] that the witnesses Joseph Regan and Simon Regan have signed with me etc…Those last few lines are very unclear

I didn’t see anything on paternite.

30-06-2022 8:14am

In the fourth line is that a name, Jean Pays Thuililler, perhaps husband of Anne and thus the father, rather than any Regan

Mick Tator · 30-06-2022 10:44am

Possible but I think the word after Thuillier might be a forename, which is typically French e.g. the Regans signed ReganJ and ReganS.. The declaration could be something as simple as the registration of a birth. The various Churches had been banned, priests exiled/killed, ‘deChristianisation ‘ was in full flow, etc, so the ‘acte de naissance’ would have been important. The text has ‘á la maison commune’ in several places including the fourth line and again carrying over into the fifth (“la dite Commune”) and that is where births are registered.

Also, FWIW, although I used ‘farmer’ as their occupation the Regans were landless, as ‘Cultivateur’ was a post-Revolutionary term for a peasant.

Deregos. · 07-07-2022 8:42am

Thank you all for your incites and replies on this, from which I gather that the document is nothing more than just a really long winded discription of some kind of 'witnessed birth registration'.

Would have been more interesting for me if the Regan's had been witnesses to a juicy murder or crime of some discription bit it is what it is. Cheers.

pinkypinky · 09-07-2022 8:19pm

Any thoughts on the address for Patrick Cullen's parents - about half way down the page, marriage to Sarah Dempsey?

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633465#page/55/mode/1up

Hermy · 09-07-2022 9:34pm

Are you sure it's Cullen - looks like Collier to me.

Not 100% sure on the address but it looks like Moyvalley.

EDIT: Irish Genealogy website appears to be down so I can't view the civil record.

pinkypinky · 09-07-2022 9:40pm

I have the civil so yes, sure it's Cullen. Agree it could be Moyvalley.

This guy is related to my Cullen ancestors but I haven't pinned the link down. The witness is a sister of my direct ancestor at a confirmed family address. Patrick said he was born in Carlow on the census, so Moyvalley would work. His wife switches between Kildare and Carlow, yet her parents lived in Hacketstown (Carlow/Wicklow border). I've researched the family forward and have a couple of DNA matches to them.

IrishGenealogy is down this evening - was discussing on Twitter.

Fraoch333 · 31-10-2022 10:34am

Can anyone figure out Percy Lovell Pearson's father's occupation (last entry on page)? I think I know what the first word is, but the second has me stumped. Thanks.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02561/1947344.pdf

Hermy · 31-10-2022 11:21am

Looking at the record of the birth of his daughter Olive in 1883 it appears to be mill furnisher.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02750/2010509.pdf

Fraoch333 · 31-10-2022 11:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119814798#Comment_119814798

That's brilliant Hermy, thanks a million!

stevewd259 · 03-11-2022 10:29pm

Hi folks,

Looking for an expert in the Clifden, Galway area for this one. Not sure if the place below the date is the name of a house, an area or what. Had a good look through the map on Google for the area but nothing seeems to be anywhere near it.

I tried to post a link to the full page as stated in the thread title but it wouldn't let me so I couldn't. How long do I have to be here before I can posts links?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03076/2127537.pdf

stevewd259 · 04-11-2022 12:09am

Hi folks,

Looking for an expert in the Clifden, Galway area for this one. Not sure if the place below the date is the name of a house, an area or what. Had a good look through the map on Google for the area but nothing seeems to be anywhere near it.

Lifted from:

Entry 382

I tried to posr a link to the full page but it wouldn't let me so i had to insert (remove space) to provide link)

Deja Boo · 04-11-2022 1:01am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119830982#Comment_119830982

Moorneen, civil parish Omey ?

Hermy · 04-11-2022 8:46am

I've added the link to your comment Steve.

You need a certain number of posts before you can add links to your comments - I think it's fifty.

Hermy · 04-11-2022 8:50am

Good spot from Deja Boo.

@stevewd259

If you haven't used them before, the historic maps at GeoHive are great for locating place names.

Ditto townlands.ie for a comprehensive alphabetical list of Irish place names.

Hermy · 12-11-2022 9:55am

I wonder could I get peoples thoughts on the occupation of the bride on this marriage record from 1930.

It's the last entry on the page.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1930/09045/5272808.pdf

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