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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Trump claims to have 'fixed' the 2018 election between Andrew Gillum and Ron DeSantis.

    Trump claims he used the FBI to reject tens of thousands of ballots. DeSantis won by 0.4%.

    I also fixed his campaign, which had completely fallen apart. I was all in for Ron, and he beat Gillum, but after the Race, when votes were being stolen by the corrupt Election process in Broward County, and Ron was going down ten thousand votes a day, along with now-Senator Rick Scott, I sent in the FBI and the U.S. Attorneys, and the ballot theft immediately ended, just prior to them running out of the votes necessary to win. I stopped his Election from being stolen…

    I found this 2019 publication.. aaand all this other stuff about Broward county being put into receivership.

    https://lakeashtondemocraticclub.org/is-there-more-to-the-story-of-floridas-2018-election/

    Then-Gov. Scott and Gaetz created the impression that 80,000 ballots were fraudulently found after Election Day. Gaetz went so far as to provide visuals with the rental truck supposedly filled with reams of paper. He also produced a shaky video that he claimed showed people loading stuff in and out of the Broward Elections office. Gaetz called for Florida’s secretary of state to put the Broward County Elections office into receivership — enlisting Donald Trump’s famous phrase — “until we can figure out what the hell is going on.”

    Oh I was not prepared for all this **** to be flung together tonight.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/us/voting-machines-florida.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/us/florida-recount-georgia-arizona.html

    “We conclude that the November 2018 election was not efficiently and effectively conducted,” Melton wrote in to county commissioners. “Based on the totality of these issues, we are unable to provide assurance over the accuracy of the November 2018 election results as reported.” (sun-sentinel)

    BRB

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,462 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    In a kind of 21st century omen, I expect this tweet will disappear the moment the GOP believe they can beat Trump.

    Picture included for posterity.

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    That aside, they sure know how to pick winners don't they. Immediately after an election where the fact that they are almost completely alienated from Gen Z, they need to have a good think about what sot of brand awareness they are going for.

    The icing on the cake is that each of these three characters have almost singlehandedly 'canceled' themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Have to say I love Kanye in a way. He went balls D**p into crazy town starting a Religion IIRC ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Elon is about to crazy himself out of anyone's good graces IMO if antics like this alienate everyone in the middle:

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    & $TSLA has fallen from $1.2 Trillion market cap in Nov 2021 to $597.62 Bn after close today (still way overvalued - probably because covid and doge/btc memes and such - the average auto like BMW has a cap of $50 Bn and they actually build, you know, good vehicles, and lots of them).

    Kanye is already right-wing cancelable because of his very indefensible antisemitic remarks.

    So yes I expect the House GOP to single out and try to extricate themselves from all 3 soon. In JK Rowlingspeak, we're going to see a lot of deatheaters in the next couple cycles swear they were never really into supporting TFG and just wanted to fit in etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    KY was always fun to watch and mock. Not seen the anti semitic but if true taking you at your word no prob with a ban. Pretty sure that blow to the head and his jaw issue did it. I always try not to comment on peoples looks but he reminds me of an angry alvin. Not being crass ofc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Well from the comments I saw which were even deleted off of twitter yeah his comments were found to be very offensive in that regard eg.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The fight is on...

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    Hopefully they'll take each other out....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    You know how they say the Simpsons predicted lots of things?

    That fundraising e-mail is Homer's 'Greetings friend' phone call and it looks like Trump's preparing himself for a monkey knife-fight.

    I read a summary of Trump's TS post earlier but the actually one is a thing of beauty. I understood him saying that he called in the FBI as him trying to show off his power (if it ever happened) but the possibility that it's actually based on some action he took is VERY interesting. To quote the Simpson's once more, he said the quiet part loud.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,675 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Meanwhile over on Truth Social, Trump is confessing to fixing the Florida elections in 2018 using federal resources to do so. Mad as a box of frogs.



  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I listened to the entire Lex Friedman interview with him. It was a car crash. Kanye is not right. He doubled down on his antisemitic talking points multiple times. Paranoia is common with the diagnosis' he's gotten in the past and he's been off his meds for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭rogber


    He is a loser. Lost in 2020, is losing now, and will lose if he runs in 2024.

    Loser Donald.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Anyone who had any thoughts that Trump would make any sensible or pragmatic choices after the last few days can forget about it.

    He is doing what he always does - Lashing out , being petty and vindictive and blaming everyone but himself for his predicament.

    I think he is finally on his way out here and he will burn the place down as he goes.

    It's easy to forget how much trouble he is in right now because there's so much happening.

    His lawyers just got fined $50k each for filing a spurious lawsuit against Hilary Clinton about 2016

    The NY Case against the Trump Corp is underway and they've just shown direct proof of evidence tampering

    He lost his attempts to block having a watchdog installed in his companies

    Plus , all the DOJ investigations and the Fulton county cases are about to kick up a gear with the Election out of the way and Kash Patel getting immunity is very bad news.

    Now that the GOP feel that they have the air-cover to say what they really think about him , this really feels like the beginning of the end for Trump.

    All of his protections are steadily draining away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Dare I say it, it does look like they are finally looking to move on: They have their young new star with his pretty wife and photogenic family. He is spouting the requisite GQP hate and insanity (Florida was the voice of sanity during Covid. Mwhahahahahaha). As I mentioned prior. Really towing the GQP line. The next generation of trump.

    I don't know much about his politics prior to the rise of GQP so I don't know if he is a believer or simply spouting what they want to hear. But yeah, it's looking like trump's star is begining to fade. But powerful enough to really do damage to the Republican Party.

    MGT and all his letchers were never really a viable option for GOP voters. They know that they would get creamed in any real debate as presidential candidates. Now they have their option. Trump is already bashing him but now it's looking like "OK gramps, calm down" for many. But trump's ... fans will of course stay and refuse to vote for anyone but him. Which is basically (un)civil war. And as the GQP/GOP eats itself alive, the Dems need to shape up and stop eating THEMSELVES alive. And probably get a stronger, more vocal and vibrant candidate for 2024



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,666 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's only fair that the Republican party faces down the monster it helped create, so let's all hope that Trump does announce a run and we can watch that battle unfold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,101 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    This. No free lunch for the GQP. They actively supported lunatics who, via the FUD they constantly spewed, caused deaths due to Covid that could readily have been prevented via a vaccine. It's a party with rapturite murderers at the helm. Why else the strong support by the likes of Pompeo for moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, a completely unnecessary thing? To accelerate the end times.

    That segment of the GQP needs to go and hopefully keep the GQP out of positions of influence for a decade or so. TFG vs. DeAthsentence will hopefully be a WWE-class throwdown lasting for months. And, should the GQP nominate someone else, hopefully TFG start up his own Conservative/National Socialist/Whatever party and draw more votes away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,688 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    For the GOP, managing Trump for the next couple of years will be like dealing with this guy

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    similar hair too...



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I don't know much about his politics prior to the rise of GQP

    During his time in Congress he was one of the founder members of the "Freedom Caucus" along with joyful people like Jim Jordan so I wouldn't be hoping for him to behave any differently.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    As soon as I saw the word "Freedom" that's all I needed to know. "Freedom" means my way/blonde, blue-eyed, gun-totin', 'murican Jesus way.

    OK. Yep.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,474 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    I dont think he has a choice. He knows the DOJ will be indicting him so he'll want to declare his presidential run before that happens so he can use the indictment as a "political witch hunt" tool. In any case the GOP is totally screwed. They'll never get rid of him and his poison.



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The GOP will go with what works.

    Clearly Donald Trump is proving more toxic with each month that passes, the midterm elections have shown that.

    His days are numbered. Will he disrupt and cause mayhem along the way? Absolutely.

    But there are no possible prospects of Trump winning in 2024. The GOP must know this, and must act accordingly.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    100% - Trump doesn't care about anything other than himself and in his mind running for 2024 gives him some kind of protection from all the legal issues.

    It absolutely doesn't , but he is convinced that it does so he will run and he will try to burn down anyone or anything that tries to stop him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,666 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The big question for the GOP is whether their base is losing interest in Trump or if Trump and his associates is bringing out the Democrat vote more than any other. If it's the latter, the party can break from Trump, but cutting that limb off would cause intolerable bleeding.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    That's the big question - Is this like in the immediate aftermath of January 6th where they spoke against him ,but changed the tune a few days later when they realised the base was sticking with him ?

    This does feel different though especially as it seems they have a credible alternative available (for them) in DeSantis, but think we'll have to wait a few weeks to see if it sticks or if they come crawling back to him because he still holds the base.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,666 ✭✭✭✭briany


    According to polls I've seen, DeSantis stonks Trump in a Florida primary, but that story isn't replicated nationwide. Trump's popularity does appear to be down with the overall Republican base, but he still leads the pack, overall. I agree that the DeSantis is the most credible alternative, but the question is how you convince the MAGA hats to switch allegiance? MAGA is a vengeful, nihilistic political philosophy that is all about disruption, chaos and confrontation. How does a more normal politician like DeSantis appeal to that cohort who just want to see the world burn?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Yeah. I have said this many times previously. The GOP had perfect outs immediately after Jan 6 domestic terrorism/insurrection action (Let's be honest here). But they didn't take it and I cannot understand why.

    The GOP had the opportunity to denounce trump and his cronies in the party and his ... fans. They absolutely would have lost all his fanbase and it would have serious impact on the party in the midterms. But even in 2020 everyone knew the global markets were dropping. That we were heading for a period of stagnation globally. At best! I couldn't understand why they didn't look at the big picture. Not 2022 but at 2024 or maybe 2026/2028. They would have been wiped out in the 2022 midterms. We all know that the global economy is going to suck for the next couple of years at least. Let's just say 2 years. NOW the newly invigorated GOP of 2024 comes to the rescue. The global economy beginning to turn. Devoid of trump, his cronies and ... fans (Not slagged off or frowned upon. Simply never mentioned again). Here you had the opportunity to say "Look what the Dems did in 2020-2024. We're back, baby!". Basically come riding in on a big white horse. With their "new" image and new younger leader. Back to core GOP values. The crazies back in their box.

    Yes, they would have lost 2022. But they would still have had enough to stir sh*t. It doesn't matter how much Biden got done or not between 2020-2024, if the GOP came back with a vibrant new candidate, just as the economy is turning then they could romp home as saviours.

    TLDR: They should have taken the hit immediately after 2020 as the world economy was going to crap and been in a position to fingerpoint at the global economy between 2020 and 2024 and say "Look? Nothing to do with us". That thread on YLYL/political is basically just them doing that anyway... (Their mantra is "He specifically ruined the economy while eating ice-cream and..... the irony..... is inappropriate with children" .... REAL classy and not the least bit ironic)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,711 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Can the GOP simply stop Trump from running as a Republican? I don't know the full rules etc behind the primaries etc, but surely if the GOP got enough of their states to back Desantis instead, Trump might not have enough votes to be the candidate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Is the nomination process that open to manipulation? I do think they'll at least reverse their decision to not hold debates in the primaries now



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