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Retro computers used in Irish schools?

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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Granny’s Garden Veteran here too, there wasn’t a bunch of computers though or even a few we shared between us. There was one , rolled into the room on a table and up the front of the class and we had to shout what to do at the teacher who pressed the buttons based on the majority of the vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,215 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Now that's retro.

    They did this VCRs and TVs in my school.



  • Posts: 266 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Our school was so old and non upgraded that the BBC Micros and VCR all had the big old 15amp round pin plugs.

    I remember one teacher used to drag out a slide projector, that looked like it was from the 1960s to do Irish language stories. She would change each slide manually by pushing it in between clips. It didn’t have any way of holding and changing slides, just looked like a big old stage lamp or something like that. There used to be all sorts of messing around trying to get the thing level with various screw down feet. Seems that was it https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/rank-aldis-tutor-projector-slides-499483757

    Also enormous tape recorders that looked like they were from the dawn of cassette technology.

    We also had one of those huge front projection TVs on wheels and I remember watching Ghost Busters, ET and Flight of that Navigator on it. All highly educational…

    I’m not sure that they owned it but think they used to hire it in or borrow it for special occasions in the hall, or it was some deal with an AV hire company back in the day. Very retro and cool looking thing though. There were red, green and blue projectors at the bottom pointing at a mirror which bounced the image onto the screen. Huge wooden cabinet that opened up.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,753 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I don't I ever learning a thing from the computers in school, except ways to play choplifter without getting caught.

    Pretty much the Spectrum 48k at home was doing everything the Apples did but in colour, well mostly colour.

    By the time I hit college it was a PC and a room full of terminals, and when I quit that to go and become a nurse I didn't see a computer again professionally for nearly a decade.

    Certainly at home I moved up to Win 95 and onwards, but in work there are still some computers that remain turned off and the monitors used for as a post-it note notice board.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,575 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I have no idea about model but I will join the Granny’s Garden chorus. Would’ve been the mid-90s when I played it, but it was very much the mainstay for computer class. That and simple typing practice games.

    Definitely would’ve advanced to Windows 98 and XP for secondary school. My main memory there is Microsoft SAM accessibility voice being used to harass either the teacher or other students! They also had typing practice software then too, and they had wooden stands the teacher would use to cover the student’s keyboard if they caught a student looking down instead of touch typing.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,261 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    We had a couple of windows 95 machines in a network and a computer class once a week in secondary school. Me being a nerd I'd have the computer work done in 5 minutes and the rest of the class was setting up a Duke nukem multiplayer game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,578 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Early 80's, Comprehensive school in North Dublin, around 400-500 students. One Apple II in the library. Never used. By anyone. Ever.

    In first year in 1982, we had one 'class' when our tutor booted it up and had to play 'hunt and peck' on the keyboard to try and get a program to run.

    By 1985, a few of us had Speccies and C64s and home and some were pretty adept in writing Z80 Assembly code.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    We had a BBC micro in Primary school in 1987, only us computer geeks(those of us with 8 bits at home) ever got to use it, I think I played Elite on it once the rest was horrible maths games etc.

    In Secondary school around 88 there were Commodore 64s there(I think I used them once) but were replaced within a year by Amstrad PC1512s, we had some classes on word processing and messed around with Gem on them.


    Living in a rural area I never was able to get my hands on a Z80 assembly book or to afford an assembler so Amstrad CPC basic and manual was the most I could do before doing x86 and 68k assembly at uni(386/486s mainly followed by pentiums)

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    We had a good few 8 bits in my secondary school rural Cork (barely had an abacas in primary). Had a small computer room with Apple II's, TRS-80s, VIC-20 and a few C64s. The gangs of us that got the early buses had an hour in the mornings to use them, mostly for games on the C64s.

    Few years later they introduced a computer sessions as part of science class (I think) and we got BBC Micros to learn BASIC on.

    I do remember one of the teachers bring his UK101 for us to look as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    We had The one Micro 32 bit in our primary school. It was used for 'Granny's garden' and to produce the school newsletter which was always produced by the 6th class kids

    In secondary school, the school got a purpose built computer room filled with about 30 Dell Pentium 2s 266 mhz after Ennis won the 'Information Age Town'

    It actually almost bankrupted the schools as the computers were given out for free but the schools had to build the computer rooms out of their own budgets. In the end, I think I used them about 3 times because there was no teacher who had any IT knowledge and the school hadn't a clue what to actually do with them.

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    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,407 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Did anyone else have insane security on their computer room in primary school or was Bray just particularly bad back in the early 90s? 😂

    It was a completely barred off cage like a prison with a big locked gate on the front. Nobody was getting in (or out!) without the keys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    I’m from Bray too. Didn’t think it was THAT bad back then!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Na, same in my secondary school - door locked when room not in use. Reminded me that only 1st years had a set class using the (limited) computers at the time and then there was a handful of 'A1' students (I was very far away from the A 'band') could get the keys to tinker around in their off time. Complete discrimination! I remember asking when PCs arrived when I'd get a chance to use them and was told quite bluntly that I wouldn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Yeah I remember the ones we had access to were quite locked down too, and access wasn't often either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭80s Synth Pop


    We had a mix of bbc micro and amstrad pcw9512.


    On the amstrad we played "Dr logo". You drew pictures using commands like

    PD (pen down)

    FD 100 (forward 100 pixles to draw a line).

    Big manual on the table to learn all the commands.


    On the bbc we played a game where you had to solve riddles to collect dragons teeth. I'd love to play that again if anyone can remember the name of the game??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I actually had a PCW9512 as my first ever "pc". Complete with daisy wheel printer, which worked like an automated hammer typewriter, crazy loud. There really wasn't much I remember being able to do with the 9512, other than word processing and that logo programme for 'drawing'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,407 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Yeah likewise, I had a PC hand me down from my uncle's courier business as my 'First PC' but I couldn't do anything with it other than word process in whatever the software they used to log their business calls. Have zero recollection of what the computer actually was unfortunately! It used older 5 1/4 inch floppy disks which I thought were quite the novelty at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 BuckoA51


    Wow thanks for all the comments everyone. Sad that I didn't uncover any hidden gems but cool to hear loads of you all enjoyed Grannies Garden too :)

    "On the bbc we played a game where you had to solve riddles to collect dragons teeth. I'd love to play that again if anyone can remember the name of the game??"

    Could that be "Dragons Tooth" the text adventure?

    I swear there was a game at school I was obsessed with, to the point of seriously pissing off my teachers as I would literally go play that instead of going outside and doing PE... I am sure it was called "Monkey", and I remember a treasure room where you had to collect a pole, a dragon who made you type the alphabet backwards... but I've been through archives of BBC software and never found it.

    Edit - I'm sure the Dragon game you mean is actually this one:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L71VN1Q7AmA

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    In primary school we’d an acorn in third class, I only remember it being turned on maybe once and never getting a shot of it but do remember thinking it was pretty primitive compared to my ZX spectrum 48k.

    in secondary school I remember when windows 95 came out and the maths teachers were tasted with teaching computers once/week. I had been a MS Dos gamer a good few years at this stage and had multiple PCs from 8086s to 486s, so understood how to use net send commands, change the background.jpg and the boot.bmp files on other machines in the classroom, the teachers default was to restart the computers when things didn’t work for him or when is usual messages appeared on the screen, which was every couple of minutes and let’s just say some questionable images were appearing on all the PCs and I was made to sit in the centre of the room away from the computers for future lab classes, it didn’t last long, maybe 3 weeks until computer class was abandoned, nothing to do with me just the teachers couldn’t teach what they didn’t know themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    My friend has an ibm XT in the late eighties, I’ve such good memories or playing

    digger

    alleycat

    sopwith

    paratrooper

    those games had the weirdest colour palette 🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭80s Synth Pop


    That's the game: Dragons World! Any time I searched for "dragon tooth bbc micro" that other text game kept coming up. Can't believe it. I was probably 7 years old when I last played in first class and still remember it. Damn tear in my eye watching that video :D

    Thanks Bucko!


    Sorry I've no clue about the dragon monkey pole treasure room backwards alphabet game(!?) but I'll do some research!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    We never had anything in National School, but in Secondary School we had the previously mentioned separate small building with some BBC Micros and others i cant remmeber.

    Generally we were just using a typing tutor, shame as the building was then locked , shame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Girl Geraldine


    I entered primary school in 1991. I remember my school had 2 BBC Master computers, one green screen and the other was orange i think. There was an Acorn Archimedes A3010. And we got two Apricot Windows 95 PCs presumably in 1995 and they were an exotic marvel at the time.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    RM Nimbus (https://www.thenimbus.co.uk/range-of-nimbus-computers) I think in 1990. We had two with colour and the rest were green!

    We had a BBC Micro 128k in the local library with a very limited selection of 'educational' games - I don't know how the 5 1/4 in floppies survived with all those fingerprints on them. They made using the microfiche scanners beside the computers seem exciting.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Primary School was a few BBC Micros I think . Secondary school didnt have any afaik ,(although there were groups of 8 bit computer owners all in their own turf war , I was in the Atari gang(800xl!) , but eventually we converted over and joined the Commodore lads ...we avoided the Speccies though , with their colour clash and rubber keys!)

    College was a few old 8086 machines connected to telnet (which with the right , finely tuned 5 1/4 boot disk would be perfect for MUDding) and a lot of 386s running Windows 3.1 all hooked up to the one networked CDrom drive! (this was early 90s ) .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    CD-ROM on a network - that must have been slow!

    I remember looking at some of my father's programming guides which covered the BBC and Spectrum, you know then ones where you'd type in the program off the page and then have to wait for next month's update to correct whatever bug you encountered - and the Spectrum had all of those funny boxes in the commands like: echo <square box> <stairs left> <blank square> <filled-in square> <stairs right>. It made for interesting looking commands, but hell, how did that work!!??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    1x Speed CD-ROM - a blazing 150 KB/sec :)

    Was that magazine/book "INPUT" by any chance? http://8bs.com/inputmagazine.htm - I've a 'lovely' full set in 4 of their binders, very 80s :)

    The strange characters on the Spectrum, almost as hard as the strange characters on the C64 when trying to type in a program as I recall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Hey - ha! That's it! 150kB/sec was in my mind when I was typing that! And it was INPUT magazine too!

    You must be my digital-twin! 🤣



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