What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

everlast75 · 03-11-2022 07:55AM

A curious insight to 45's followers;

Make crazy accusations and it's for others to disprove those crazy accusations...

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1587962588503150593?s=20&t=6IhQ-BaWoqriPc7roWDfAQ

The natural follow on then is that when you're proven to be talking bullshit, then say "I'm only asking questions!", meaning "I've done nothing wrong", and then move on to the next crazy accusation.

Penn · 03-11-2022 08:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119826812#Comment_119826812

I've been flip-flopping on this over the past few months. I was starting to feel that maybe the GOP would make him not run at all in exchange for shutting down all investigations etc he's facing, so the GOP could put forward someone more palatable to the general population in 2024 without that baggage and dislike of Trump.

On the other hand though, there are investigations into Trump which exceed the GOP's reach and they can't help him out of. So Trump might feel announcing he's running again might give him the best chance at trying to dismiss the cases as political, trying to stop him from running again etc, or are things he could quash if he's far enough ahead as the GOP candidate by announcing early that the GOP have no other choice but to stand behind him.

Overheal · 03-11-2022 03:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119826812#Comment_119826812

Same or near time as the indictments.

Tell me how · 03-11-2022 05:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786788#Comment_119786788

Party of Law and Order they said....

'Lock Her Up' they said....

Tell me how · 03-11-2022 05:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119826812#Comment_119826812

Yes.

GOP have completely caved in to him, see DeSantis told some people that he won't challenge him if he does run.

Every single investigation ongoing will then come under pressure to be put on hold or be accused of being politically motivated. :(

osarusan · 04-11-2022 09:34AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63508406

Donald Trump has dropped one of his strongest hints yet that he may run for the White House again. The former US president told a crowd in Iowa, that he will "very, very, very probably do it again" in 2024. Mr Trump was speaking at the first of four rallies in five days as he campaigns for Republican candidates in next week's midterm elections.

"And now in order to make our country successful, and safe and glorious. I will very, very, very probably do it again." "Very soon," he told the cheering crowd. "Get ready."

sydthebeat · 04-11-2022 09:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119831755#Comment_119831755

Reads very much like his stereotypical "next two weeks" schtick....

Overheal · 04-11-2022 08:55PM

@notobtuse asked to CC this over from the Biden thread

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119834421#Comment_119834421

So he could reply on aspects that relate to Trump more than Biden. -OH

Overheal · 05-11-2022 12:37AM

Being newly reported: Apparently the Royals had already been sour on Trump since 2012 which explains the tepid reception he always got from them.

In 2012 he had Tweeted,

“Kate Middleton is great – but she shouldn’t be sunbathing in the nude – only herself to blame. Who wouldn’t take Kate’s picture and make lots of money if she does the nude sunbathing thing? Come on Kate!”

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump-royally-pissed-off-charles-and-william-by-asking-who-wouldnt-take-naked-pics-of-kate-middleton-amid-scandal-book/

Apparently Charles, William and Harry engaged in profane rants about the tweet.

Charles particular would reportedly go on to be "disappointed" that in writing Trump would refer to him as the Prince of Whales.

.... but if I did any sunbathing while Trump was in control of our keyhole satellites.... I'd be creeped out.

Igotadose · 05-11-2022 12:13PM

Meidastouch just did a 'greatest hits in GQP pedophilia tweet.' Lest we forget what the P in GOP stands for. Remember Dennis Hastert? Roy Moore? Lots and lots of them.

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1588782891013898240

Overheal · 05-11-2022 02:32PM

More MAGA in Jail today.

The producers of 2000 mules refused to comply with the discovery phase of the defamation lawsuit from Konnech, an election IT company.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/01/politics/true-the-vote-leaders-jail-contempt-of-court/index.html?fbclid=IwAR12ajEkVxdskA_4T873YUNN236VfLOye1vIajkxxf8koNVlkrziZAAQkjk

Calculated move: comply with discovery, everyone incl. your audience knows you're a fraud, you go totally broke. But you spend a few nights in jail and all the MAGA heads love you and martyr you and set up gofundme's etc. and MTG will show up at your cosplay jail cell at a CPAC rally.

Overheal · 05-11-2022 03:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119836470#Comment_119836470

Speaking of the P in GOP - Here comes a NEW CHALLENGER

https://www.mediaite.com/news/south-dakota-republican-candidate-faces-felony-charges-for-alleged-repeated-molestation-of-family-member/

Molesting his own child

But the teachers and the groomers, like, cmon man...

In similar news Glen Youngkin, gov. of VA iirc, had vilified the teachers and set up a CRT hotline to report woke teachers

He had to abandon the hotline in September over a lack of interest.

https://www.businessinsider.com/virginia-governor-shut-down-critical-race-theory-hotline-2022-11

They want to brandish the public boards of child psychologists, teachers, educators etc. of being the groomers while they yell at PTA meetings and I have no idea if the parent yelling at me is abusing their own child. Turns out they were.

Igotadose · 05-11-2022 04:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119837323#Comment_119837323

Ahh, no problem! Just ask the DHS to fake up some evidence about them, like they're terrorists. Hey, they tried to do it for TFG, but like every one of his (or his lackeys, in this case the head of the DHS who had trouble getting confirmed, took 2 tries), it failed. That's all that saved the US from TFG - ineptness.

https://gizmodo.com/donald-trump-homeland-security-report-antifa-portland-1849718673

I think the Biden administration should use this prior art! The women that are recruiting sheriffs to arrest librarians who won't remove that nasty literature from the shelves? They must be some kind of Antifa/KKK auxiliaries. Just get the DHS to fake something up about 'em. Great idea! /s

Defund the DHS.

briany · 05-11-2022 04:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119826812#Comment_119826812

I'm still not sure why Trump has been coquettishly teasing a run for the last 22 months or so without confirming either way. He not be legally allowed to launch a presidential campaign right now, due to lawful constraints on how far out you can do that, but he could say that's what he intends to do when the time comes. Strategically, it might have made more sense to announce that intention early, as it could then feed more into the notion that the investigations against him are nothing more than attempts to prevent Trump retaking the office.

Overheal · 05-11-2022 04:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119837340#Comment_119837340

The DHS career workers didn't seem to take to the acting head/Trump proxy's whole agenda and it seems to have met with internal resistance. I think Defund the DHS would be a bit reckless, the issue here was the widespread use of the Trump administration of acting heads of agencies that could forego the standard senate confirmation process, thereby removing a lot of the checks and balances on the job - namely, having to testify under oath how you will, and will not, use or abuse your agency.

Igotadose · 05-11-2022 04:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119837434#Comment_119837434

And if he's elected again, they'll be better at subversion, hence, defund it. I'm totally in favor of Biden using TFG's dodge of endless acting secretaries - why not? Congress can't be arsed to fix it.

As for the DHS, does it serve any useful purpose? GWB started it after 9/11 because Intelligence dropped the ball so badly, and it was an excuse to build a great big huge new bureaucracy. TFG used it to abuse protestors and arrest women.

I've always been leery of organizations who call themselves "The Homeland." Creepy name.

Overheal · 05-11-2022 04:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119837457#Comment_119837457

On paper I don't see an issue with the existence of the DHS. Another symptom of evolving government, including many of the agencies birthed by Republicans themselves - the EPA for example. Both agencies serve roles, they just have to be kept.

It would have been fascinating to watch Biden play Turnabout but I also think it would have just confirmed Trump's administration and its tactics were the new norm.

On the other hand I don't think that is escapable as when the GOP next gets into the Oval office, just as they have done the last several times they've held the office - they will push Unitary Executive Theory even further than we have previously imagined.

This would have been a lot easier if they lacked the Senate filibuster seats, Biden would have been able to swiftly pass HR1 and a bunch of other reforms, checks and balances to nail the institution back down before another Republican were to come back in and start ripping up more norms.

Overheal · 05-11-2022 05:34PM

So regarding rally bias, how many of Trump's rally attendees are local, and how many are just the superfans astroturfing with him around the country to give the appearance of broader grassroots support?

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1588946216552787968?s=20&t=kwhx1iGo_Q3wvXRjtn13ew

He's long had a group of rally megafans (Klepper IIRC has ran into a few regulars of his own) https://www.wsj.com/articles/its-kind-of-like-an-addiction-on-the-road-with-trumps-rally-diehards-11567762200

extra gravy · 06-11-2022 01:31AM

https://twitter.com/OliviaRubinABC/status/1589050195073183744?t=9fRPU5wUqJdRN8MCwX7J3Q&s=19

And so it begins, watching them turn on each other is delightful! Surprised he knew such a big word, it was probably wasted on that crowd though.

francois · 06-11-2022 08:22AM

Blame Antifa psyops

https://t.co/QGyoEwyTpa

briany · 06-11-2022 08:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119839615#Comment_119839615

If Trump does (or can) run again, there isn't going to be a Republican primary in the traditional sense. Who's someone from that party who could clinch the nomination who's not a Trumpist? And how could a Trumpist run against Trump? That'd be ridiculous. They'd have to simultaneously endorse Donald Trump while trying to outline why he shouldn't be the nominee. Forget physicists trying to merge their theory of gravity with the other fundamental forces. I think I've just found an even harder equation.

If Trump runs again, DeSantis will get down on his knees before Donald, just like everyone else in that party who wants to stay somewhat relevant. He doesn't have to like it, but that's what it is.

Tell me how · 06-11-2022 11:01PM

One thing that I think no one can dispute, is that all the most capable leaders who have objectively been the most successful always been elected because most people supported them in manners such as this guy here.

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1589291143824814081

Like, people don't notice calm and measured governance, or an ability to get some partisan support, or to win successive elections or negotiate deals, pass legislation and have forward thinking etc.

What really influences people is who has the biggest fan club, like, who gives a flying fcuk if you can afford healthcare or housing as long as your guy has the most flags and encourages the same group of people (literally) to go to multiple rallies in different states. This is what all high quality political leaders have always been known for.

(Yes this was an episode of sunday evening sarcasm. The fcuking state of this clowns truck.)

Quin_Dub · 07-11-2022 09:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119837404#Comment_119837404

It's very simple - It's about MONEY.

He could declare any time he likes - He officially declared for 2020 only a few weeks after taking office in 2017 so time scale isn't the issue.

By not declaring officially , he can continue to have run "Save America" PAC which is not subject to anything like the same kind of financial oversight as an official campaign fund. He basically can use that money any way he wants and just give it to himself - Which is exactly what he has been doing.

He's also been able to have the GOP pay all his legal bills so far and they have said that as soon as he declares that will stop as they can't fund one candidate and not the others etc.

So like every single decision Trump makes it's all about which option allows him to grift the most money , and delaying the official announcement is it.

Overheal · 07-11-2022 03:08PM

The money people don't care about social issues they care about money

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/billionaire-gop-megadonor-backs-desantis-for-2024-time-to-move-on-from-trump/

Trump has lost his most important supporters.

everlast75 · 07-11-2022 03:42PM

Couldn't let the occasion go by unmarked...

Akrasia · 07-11-2022 03:53PM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/07/putin-ally-yevgeny-prigozhin-admits-interfering-in-us-elections

Russian Oligarch admits to interfering in US elections

PropJoe10 · 07-11-2022 04:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842507#Comment_119842507

I disagree to a certain extent. Some of Trump's policies were quite popular with the US electorate so there is an economic and social agenda platform there to run on for another Republican. The most unpopular part of the Trump administration was Trump himself and the constant circus of nonsense from the first day to the last day of his presidency. Someone COULD run on the platform of bringing his agenda but not his horrific personality and ant-democracy leanings.

Having said that, you're right about the fact that if and when he does announce, nobody will run against him, simply because they're all too afraid of him.

Tony EH · 07-11-2022 04:14PM

Trump never had any actual solid policies though. He had sound bites. Some of which sounded great to the ordinary Joe left behind by the general state of the American political system. Unfortunately for them, though, it was all just a load of bollocks.

duploelabs · 07-11-2022 05:34PM

Which poster here claimed that the Russians didn't interfere with US elections?

'Putin's chef' Yevgeny Prigozhin admits interfering in U.S. elections

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-yevgeny-prigozhin-united-states-election-interference-1.6642853

briany · 07-11-2022 08:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119845764#Comment_119845764

Only unpopular with the moderates and independents. The base eat that ignorant shite up. You can have an more polished candidate, but they need the base's vote and they only receive that with a Trump endorsement or if Trump is unable to run.

What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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