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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    Here he is, as far back as 12 March, calling on the West to allow Putin have a ‘victory’ in order to stop the war.

    Pathetic, but at least his eagerness for appeasement is consistent. But why is the Irish Times persisting in giving him editorial space to, in effect, make Putin’s case?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I've thought the same thing too. There will need to be a humongous cleanup, but the scale of it would be hard to fathom. Doing it thoroughly would be nigh on impossible, which means there'll inevitably be combine harvesters exploding while going about their daily (or yearly) business



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    Whats left of Russian forces will fight to the last man to defend its objective demanded by a mad man

    A retired US General quoted saying if nato went in with its almost immediate air supremacy war would be over in 96 hours

    Only thing stopping it is a possible nuclear backlash and the nnp that's putin has been as a hostage to prevent such a scenario.

    Ukraine army is being made look good by a bad Russian mob like unprofessional force



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Fight to the last man? hardly

    Why on earth would they do that?

    Recent events prove otherwise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Your last sentence unnoticingly sidesteps the Ukrainians adeptness with technology and ability to integrate many different systems.

    The Russians would have tried to eat Western weapons systems.

    Today's words on Sesame Street are "adaptiveness" and "versatile".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭josip


    The lads ploughing will be at greater risk. I wouldn't be surprised to see armour-plated cabs back in fashion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,986 ✭✭✭ambro25


    The French Service de déminage is still clearing up unexploded WW1 and WW2 ordnance (more rarely 1870 ordnance these days) in the north east of the country, into the tons (metric) every year, to this day.

    It’s long been dubbed the “iron harvest”. Primer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_harvest

    And it keeps on killing, every year too. Mostly Darwin Award chasers with metal detectors. Much more rarely, but still and very regrettably, sappers themselves. I spent some of my military service with them BITD, a guy I met on that team died on the job some years ago.

    Sadly, that will be Ukrainian reality for a lot of years. No matter how thorough the clean up immediately post-war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    If the UK/USA/other forces just supposedly did blow up the pipelines, kindly explain why the Kremlin didn't have a wee meltdown over it. They had an interest in these assets and were demonstrably angered by the various attacks to date on the likes of the Kerch Bridge and attacks in Crimea at airbase and port. But the pipelines? A shrug and just too bad for yous seemed to be the message - just look what we can do to other assets like this.

    The Brits may be having their political woes but you can be bloody sure the one thing that would galvanise them in a moment would be an attack by Russia. Big, big mistake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Seems Russians are leaving Kherson including their administration building and check points..





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If anybody has any doubts what the Ukrainans plans are for the future victory and a trip to Crimea for president Zelensky




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    But it's not spring yet, how could they? /s

    That one didn't even last 24hrs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,387 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The Russian army that invaded Ukraine consisted of 200k mainly conscripts who were illegally forced to participate. However since then regular Russian Army stationed elsewhere in Russia have been added to that force. You also have the Wagner group who were recruiting for it as well. Add to that Chechens 15-20k of which were also added to the conflict.

    The reason that Putin added a mobilization order was that the regular army was not able to continue to add troops without removing soldiers from other conflicts. We already see the results of that where when Azerbzijan and Armenia started a conflict that Russia was unable to get involved to help Armenia.

    We know from internal Russian compensation figures that the figures are stark. A late August circular with in the FSB indicated that compensation for death was paid to nearly 50k families. Some families are unable to claim as there is no body.

    Moscow Times indicated 90k irrecoverable losses in late September, that is dead and seriously wounded unable to return to the army.

    You published a figure if 12-1 wounded to dead. No army has ever achieved that in a serious conflict. In Afghanistan the US figures were 7-1. Wounded are all wounded from the soldier that get a bullet graze's to lads that get wounded by major and minor bullet wounds to those that lose arms and legs etc. Unless you are superficially wounded in the Russian army you chance of survival is poor. 1-1 dead to wounded the figures may be much worse 1 to 0.7. Russian medical backup is probably similar to US civil war figures (1-0.7 union forces) not to any modern army.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    IMG_20221102_162506_056.jpg

    The Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donetsk region liquidated the commander of the helicopter regiment of PMC "Wagner".

    Two days later, Russia confirmed the liquidation in Ukraine of Lieutenant Colonel Vyacheslav Zangiev from Vladikavkaz.

    Those born to kneel are not destined to fly 😘

    Nice ending sentiment.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "70k dead and 70k wounded is 140k out of action is almost the entire russian force committed to the invasion."

    Keep going you're nearly there... this is the reason Russian forces have stalled at best/collapsing elsewhere. Come on, you can do it... Ruh... Ruhs... Russia is losing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If I'm correct they still have patrols collecting unexploded munitions found in fields during plowing season ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If anybody thinks drone are impressive have a look at the unmanned Blackhawk helicopter program

    matrix-technology_web.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    If the entire Russian force is on the brink of collapse from that number of losses, then how is it they are still holding their own on 4 fronts (and recently advancing very slowly in Zaporozhzhia and Donetsk fronts)?

    How is it that Ukraine with the million man army cannot defeat a Russian force of less than 50k (as of a month ago before the russian mobilised began to be moved to the front)?

    Either the Ukrainians are hemorrhaging troops at a rate much higher than that of the Russians, or the russian losses are not nearly as high as reported. There is no way they could hold almost 600km of a frontline against a force with, at the least, several hundred thousand troops and advanced NATO weaponry, if they had lost over 140k of their 200k* strong invasion force. (Most sources from feb and march 22 say 190k at the uppermost estimate for Russian invasion force, including DPR/LPR militias and Rosgvardia)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I think what's needed is a lot of those ordnance sniffer dogs or they need to develop an ordnance sniffing drone that flies in a predetermined search pattern low to the ground.

    Koniku Inc., a startup in San Rafael, Calif., is now using bioengineered nerve cells as the basis for sensors capable of recognizing the subtle odors of explosives. The cells contain proteins designed to detect so-called volatile organic compounds, carbon-containing substances that seep into the air from a range of sources, including food, paints, beverages, bodies and unexploded bombs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,717 ✭✭✭Rawr


    With any luck this is them bugging out and leaving the city without a fight.

    I've little doubt that Ukraine could win a street fight for this city, but it would be drawn out & very bloody. If they are bugging out it also robs Ukraine the chance to remove Russia's "best" troops from the fight. I was hoping for a mass surrender here, which might have set up a precursor to Ukraine's own version of Sherman's March to the Sea....instead you'd swap out Confederate Georgia with Crimea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Russian ordinance still killing and maiming Afghans on a regular basis Afghanistan, thousands of land and anti-personnel mines still there, still active many years after they left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    Adaptiveness changing from sovet era to western in the middle of a war with a lot of civilians coming I to the fray has been spectacular and including the drone stuff.

    Point is a nato force would have demolished the over rated Russian forces with its current levels of unity very quickly and with less destruction.

    I still think nato will end up in the conflict boots on the ground eventually.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,549 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Something sounds a bit to me fishy there. Are they clearing the place to lure the Ukrainians in and then do something unthinkable?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Whatever the total is, seems clear Russia has lost a lot of troops and equipment from the original force.

    There is alot of evidence beyond what Ukraine says or the figures they or their allies/supporters give for this. e.g. fact that Ukraine managed to take any ground back at all, continuous funnelling of additional equipment from other parts of Russian army/stockpiles into Ukraine, rounding up of "volunteers" + recruiting for Wagner pmc etc., that Putin had to do a partial mobilisation/shift to a war economy to keep the slaughter going, that Putin has gone to Iran and North Korea for more weapons/supplies...

    Maybe just maybe Ukraine is a bit more erm "democratic" than Russia, & Zelensky would be out on his ear (and Ukraine would be suing for peace) if he ordered military to begin some huge assaults that will result in kind of losses Russia's army is suffering (or worse!) trying to win land for Putin in Ukraine?

    It's funny how fact of damage Russia has suffered will not sink in for some or be admitted to. Computer says no! I think if the US had been going about waging such a disgusting war and its military being hammered by same level of casulaties & losses, some of these posters would have been rubbing their little paws together in glee at the unfolding catastrophe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I've seen firsthand too what these infernal weapons do, and predominantly to innocent civilians long after the war has ended. I've shared living quarters with de-miners and like your case, one of them lost his life as well, in Libya.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭jackboy


    More likely they don’t have the manpower and equipment to hold the city without being surrounded. This loss will give the Ukrainians all sorts of interesting opportunities for future offensives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,836 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    all roads lead to Crimea. Get the HIMARS in range and liquidate their bases.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It seems to be the case , unless they are setting a trap hoping the Ukrainans charge only for the Russians to flatten the place,

    If they have withdrawn it's a case of next stop svastaspol



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