General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

Well if we grant City and Arsenal are nailed on and Newcastle are now serious contenders, that leaves Liverpool battling for two places with four other teams, all of whom are currently playing better than them, and none of whom look likely to fall out of the race. I'd be making them sixth favourites in that market, maybe joint fifth with Chelsea.

Yes. He has two left feet.

Klopp has been working miracles with an average net spend of £10-15m pound a season. Every signing has to work. And when they don’t it’s a disaster as they don’t have the money to rectify it immediately.

Liverpool won’t finish top 4, the damage will be done by the time January comes around. Spurs up next, away.

That should be a second yellow card for Scamacca. Dangerous play surely…

Not watching this game, but with fouls the same, how have West Ham 3 yellows and Man Utd none? All cynical from the Hammers, or dirty?

Da Gea bailed them out again like he has for years now.

I don’t see anything great with united at the moment.

Yes but it’s not like they steam rolled West Ham and has a 2 or 3 nil lead. If Da Gea didn’t make some world class saves it would have been a draw.

It’s more about I haven’t seen anything from United yet that is brilliant.

But they are winning matches which is the most important thing.

Nothing wrong with winning a game by being lucky and United surely were there as they just about held on there. Multiple really fantastic saves and Bowen's mishit was huge. Similar to Arsenal winning against Leeds recently where they played poor and really held on at end. Pundits always go on about grit and character but it's really just a bit of luck at the end of the day, fine margins and all that!

Iv seen a lot of talk lately about Martinez at United, Is it just me or are people over rating him,

Don't get me wrong he has a been a decent solid decent CB but hardly fantastic

Stats floating around about his heading % but he has actually only won 13 headed duels in the league ,Which is way down on other CB's ,Maguire for example has 7 in 3 games, he simply doesn't compete often in the air

Also today there was a graph of Passes completed per 90 & Progressive passes per 90 & again he was way down the pecking order in comparison to other Prem CB's

Is he brilliant or is he just is he decent ,

Suppose either way he is an improvement ,

Massive weekend for the race for top 4. Spurs can, and I think will; deal a massive blow to Liverpool if they beat them. Arsenal can deal a huge blow to Chelsea, but will settle for a draw, and Utd and Geordie-Arabia can keep their runs going.

they need to start scoring goals. We're 13 games in, in November, and they have only scored 6 goals.

Now I know their big money summer singing was unlucky to get a bad injury straight away, but Jimenez seems to be in Mexico just waiting for the WC and Hwang is confined to the bench behind Diego Costa who hasn't scored many goals at all for a few years at this stage. They made a mistake bringing in Costa and making him the main man IMO. And now he is suspended this week, so have to go back to Hwang while his confidence is low.