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Who gives the go ahead in UK if they are helping Ukraine to attack Russia fleet, I assume it's Rishi that needs to okay it ? Of course we all know it's Ukraine, who are trained to do it by UK, but it's still Ukraine carrying it out.

Hats off, great point.

And you talk s**t for yours

NEWS:

A video from the cameras of unmanned surface vehicles featuring an attack on the vessels of the Russian Black Sea Fleet has been published for free access.

In the  you can see an attack on the 11356R project Admiral Makarov frigate, which became the actual flagship of the fleet after the sinking of the Moskva missile cruiser. The footage shows a door-gunner firing on a drone craft as it makes its way towards the Russian ships, bullets striking the water all around it.

In parts of the footage you can see the flashes of drone-strikes on the extreme top left of the FLIR cameras video.

On a web-cam, pointing out to sea, you can also see an explosion and black smoke on the top right of the footage, before the video stops.

Now that Sevastapol Navy Port has been atracked, I would not be surprised if Russias response to this crosses whatever lines remain in Russia's playbook. Even psychologically, this cuts deep in the Russian psyche. It would be equivalent to an attack on a US Naval port, or Haulbowline or the British Naval base on the Clyde. To Russians, in their minds, Ukraine can now touch what was the untouchable. A masterful attack.

Ukrainian authorities have not officially confirmed their participation in the organization of the operation.

What I am amazed at is the almost total lack of reportage on progress or otherwise from both sides of the conflict. We only hear of a ‘biggie’ now and again eg drone attack a few days ago on those ships in the Crimea. I can understand why we get no news from the Ru side and if we do It will be very questionable unless it is from a very independant /reputable source.

Also, is it the case that the Ukr has been very successful in its lockdown on any reportage from the war in general and specifically the front. Apart from what the gov wants to release officially. Ukr probably does not allow reporters near the front for the same reason

I listen - great entertainment- to the various RT broadcasts where the penalises rant about what should be done in the Ukr and to ALL the UKranians in order to ‘put manners on them’ . The REGULATOR re what you can and cannot say on radio and TV in Ru must have very little or ABSOLUTLY no guidance to help her/ him in Her /his job when you listed to what is being said. Eg Soldiers/civilians/ children are sub human and therefor should be raped,shot, murdered ,starved , castrated, left to die Or more or less use whatever means you can come up with to rid us of this scum. And if you cannot do that then destroy the place, level it, blow up dams, destroy its power station assets, bomb its ports mine its farmlands, blow up itsfarmyards , steel mills, grain stores, take what you want such as washing machines , combine harvesters, etc

All of the above , in my and general international opinion is well below even a sub human level, YET HOW HAS PUTIN SAID ABSOLUTLY NOTHING ABOUT THEIR BEHAVIOUR - so he must concur with their contributions and encouraged to do so. Does he effectively own the TV station -RT.

Is this yet another example of the measure of the man. The man who said we are of the one family, etc, etc, etc, etc.

A Tweet I think worth mentioning especially in light of Russia conscripting men in the annexed territories

"Some think if Ukraine surrendered, that would bring peace & Ukrainians would not be fighting now. Well, no. If Ukraine fell in 3 days, russians would now be mobilizing us as cannon fodder to further invade into other countries. Cause that's how russian imperialism works."

https://mobile.twitter.com/OlenaHalushka/status/1586355312914677761

Don't be sucked in by any specific mentions of the UK by Russia.

Its a typical and rather ancient Soviet-era tactic of trying to fracture NATO politically, by putting inordinate pressure on individual members over some made up nonsense or other. Christ knows they tried it on the old West German government plenty in the old days.

The reason they are picking the UK is because they have a new PM still in the induction phase and are under very particular pressure domestically.

Its especially pathetic, just like Filatov suggesting that Ireland advising Ukraine on mine clearance would make us a participant in the War.

They'll be on to blaming the dirty Romanians over some other bullsh1t by Tuesday.

Cyber wars don't get much attention here, so...

Apparently, a young major in the cyber ops team [a very small team at that] from the US was in Ukraine last December and twigged that something was afoot and insisted on staying on, she was only meant to be there a short time. Might sound a bit boring to some but I found it a very interesting read. Could well have been the same young major that saved the HSE back in 2021. I would be surprised if the government here did not get help on the quiet from somewhere.

For all of Putin's legendary genius status amongst certain folk, challenging the UK to a scrap is incredibly and delusionally dumb.

Aaa... someone somewhere will diss the Economist... but here it is. Russian power brokers and the upper classes are thinking what we all have been thinking. Time for a Putinless Russia.

 “There is a lot of swearing and angry talk in Moscow restaurants and kitchens,” one member of the elite says. “Everyone has realised that Putin has blundered and is losing.”

Paywall story...

If you've read the thread, you'll know it's littered with fresh accounts that come & go - posters involved in trolling, propaganda & disinformation. So anyone with a very small number of posts that suddenly becomes active or posters who've registered accounts in recent weeks, automatically attract some scepticism.

I've always said the hardest moment for Putin will be after Europe survives the winter and support for Ukraine doesn't stop. It's going to be a very painful winter and come next summer they'll be in some state. Expect more big Ukrainian pushes and Russian retreats. He'll end up with 200k dead, hardly any decent tanks and other armour left. No cruise missiles or at least not many. If it looks like he's losing now just wait until then.