BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

But who are the "Tory Faithful" though?

Are they not pretty much fully encompassed by the current polling support?

If there are voters that might be swayed by aggressive action on Immigration , who are they supporting in all the current polling?

For there to be any chance of a "hung parliament" the Tories would need to get the gap well down in to single digits.

2 years is a long time, but it's hard to see a pathway for the Tories to do that , all the major elements are against them in terms of Economic outlook etc.

Firstly , they already have this and that only works for those people coming to the country legally seeking a Visa.

Secondly , what does that have to do with the proposed illegal actions planned by the UK Government on Asylum seekers?

I don't have any problem with a country controlling illegal immigration and refusing to accept people that simply economic migrants - The Irish system could do with being infinitely more effective and efficient than it is today.

However , the system and process used needs to be both legal and respectful to the people involved. This is where the UK proposals fall down , they are neither respectful or remotely legal.

Asylum seekers are another category entirely and cannot ever be treated the same as an illegal immigrant or even a regular visa seeker.

Defenders of the "Rwanda plans" try to make it seem that anyone that disagrees with them are somehow "lovers of illegal immigration" and that they somehow wish to flood the country with illegal immigrants for some nefarious reason.

That is not the case at all - Just do it properly, respectfully and legally and no one will have any issues.

I don't know that I'd agree that the issues impacting the UK economy are going to reduce over the next two years at all.

The general Global economic issues are with us for the next year I would say, and the UK will be impacted harder and for longer than the rest of Europe and elsewhere.

And then we have Brexit and that will continue to drag them down and if they are forced to actually implement the agreements it will impact them even more.

I suspect that Sunak will try to be "all things to all people" by allowing people like Braverman to sabre rattle on immigration but also being very vanilla on the Economy following Hunts lead.

The end result is that no one will be happy.

For me in terms of the next Election, Sunak is working on a continuum of a worst case scenario of a 250 seat loss and a best case of a 100 seat loss.

The sooner the Election , the larger the loss.

Managing to be a little less awful than Liz Truss isn't much of a flex - Labour still have a 28 point lead in that single Poll by YouGov (owned by Nadhim Zahawi).

I'm sure Sunak will poll better than Truss if only for the fact that he won't recklessly trash the economy overnight again.

But it's a very very long road back to a point where a future election is remotely competitive.