Smart meter

cena · 13-10-2022 9:48am #1

Are you getting a smart meter.

I have not approved the company to put one in yet. I don't think I will get one, as I can see driving my crazy checking on the how much energy is been used.

Badly Drunk Boy · 13-10-2022 9:54am

You can still check what energy you're using with your 'stupid' meter.

Leg End Reject · 13-10-2022 11:11am

I have one but haven't changed to the smart meter tariff. The ESB don't ask for your permission to install one, they just let you know it will be upgraded, your only choice is whether you change the tariff. As they're planning to charge more for peak times it's a no from me.

ELM327 · 13-10-2022 11:20am

I've had mine removed

standardg60 · 13-10-2022 11:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119738335#Comment_119738335

You're perfectly entitled to refuse one, it's been discussed many times on here.

Ubbquittious · 13-10-2022 12:36pm

I will be holding on to the old backward-spinning one as long as possible

daheff · 13-10-2022 12:41pm

Refused mine being replaced also.

Can't see how I'd save from a smart tariff. Energy companies don't tend to try to save you money. Already do as much as we can off peak.

Plus house is about 5 years old with a digital meter already. Why replace that before it's useful life is up? Seems like an awful waste to me

Leg End Reject · 13-10-2022 2:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119738393#Comment_119738393

Really? Too late now. 😔

Ush1 · 13-10-2022 2:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119738379#Comment_119738379

ESB removed it?

ELM327 · 13-10-2022 2:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119739172#Comment_119739172

Yup. Replaced with a day night meter in august

Gregor Samsa · 13-10-2022 2:15pm

I had no problem with getting one installed. Quite happy not to have a meter reader coming out or having to submit my own readings.

I haven't moved to a smart tariff, though and won't until I can see for myself the savings or lifestyle adjustments I'd have to make to make it worth my while. At the moment, you can't utilise the smart part of the meter unless you're on a smart tariff, which is really stupid. Seemingly there's going to be a "data hub" website launched next month that will allow you to log in and analyse (minus one day) your electricity usage, even if you're not on a smart tariff. That will at least make the meter more useful.

But lets face facts: there's going to come a point that those not on smart tariffs are going to be penalised. They won't make people get them, they'll just make it uneconomical not to.

blade1 · 13-10-2022 2:18pm

Hope the fitters don't mind my Wasps 😁

xxxxxxl · 15-10-2022 2:19am

Scam meter more like it.

beggars_bush · 15-10-2022 7:45am

Meter is inside our house, so won't be allowing them in as we both work

Gooser14 · 19-10-2022 10:19am

If one buys a house with a smart meter installed & where the previous owner had a smart plan, can the new owner revert to a 24 hour plan?

Ray Palmer · 19-10-2022 11:18am

Some strange comments here about them. It is just a new meter and you don't need to change tariffs. Had to apply to have one put in myself rather than being asked. We got €300 credit on our account because they estimated the bills for a bit. Now no need for them to enter the house to read the meter which is convenient.

No sure what the fear is about?

Ubbquittious · 19-10-2022 2:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119764387#Comment_119764387

The smart tariffs are crap. The more smart meters that are installed the more they'll be tempted to start grandfathering the dumb plans. Smart meters are also unfavourable to those with solar panels

There are also some privacy concerns. For example if they see that your usage kicks off at 11 or so in the morning they might be inclined to think you're on the dole and start sending your bill every month. There is lots of other information that can be garnered about you using AI overlords which no doubt they are rubbing their hands together at the prospect of doing

astrofool · 20-10-2022 12:33am

They will likely raise the standard tariffs above smart once the energy crisis is over.

I also believe its in the gift of ESB Networks if they'll let you keep your old one or not, i.e. they're not bothered if you want to keep your old meter for now, but can cut you off if you refused work.

Gooser14 · 20-10-2022 12:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119768847#Comment_119768847

The following is an interesting post from elsewhere on boards:

"Electric Ireland told me the other day that ordinary day rates will not be available from 2024 if you have a smart meter."

Dyr · 20-10-2022 12:47am

This reminds me, Bord Gais have been sending me letters about replacing my meter because it will be ten years old soon. Apparenty involves a full once over of the whole house.

They can go and whistle

Ubbquittious · 20-10-2022 9:27am

Meter reader called here twice in about a month and a half after being absent for about 6 months or more. Those fcuking power companies have put them into over drive to make sure they collect every penny of their massive price increases after absolutely years of trying to automate meter readers out of existence so they could pocket their wages in order to fuel/upgrade their superyachts.

freshpopcorn · 20-10-2022 11:07am

Our meter was outside and we were happy to get the meter installed. We honestly thought it would better.

However the plans from what we could see wouldn't benefit us at all. So, it's not activated!

Montage of Feck · 20-10-2022 4:04pm

I'm sick of smart technology, it won't be installed in my house.

spurious · 27-10-2022 10:48am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119771309#Comment_119771309

It's all fun and games until the data centre goes down.

Jinglejangle69 · 27-10-2022 10:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119768867#Comment_119768867

Don’t.

Those new metres have known problems of pulsing when no gas is being used.

Montage of Feck · 27-10-2022 12:09pm

More like fart technology.

27-10-2022 9:42pm

This thread ought to be moved to the conspiracy forum! It’s a meter, FFS. Maybe some people has a vaccination against water meters and it’s given immunity to all meters.

Potential-Monke · 27-10-2022 10:55pm

Getting ours in 2 weeks. Has a look at EI's smart plans last night. Unless I'm misreading something, they all seem cheaper than the standard rates and some would definitely save us money, specifically the night saver as I work/live nights. Now with the fathers oxygen concentrator, we probably won't see any savings anyway, but it's more the monitoring we're interested in.

I understand the worries, but I also think like others that people will eventually be priced out of the non-smart tariffs eventually. What the gubbermant wants, they usually get. There's probably already more than enough people getting them so there's no stopping now.

28-10-2022 12:23am

Cranks who don’t want a smart meter won’t be forced to take one. They’ll just be moved to a more expensive standard unit rate plan. A meter reader will still call and read the meter.

circadian · 28-10-2022 12:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119765506#Comment_119765506

Jesus 2 posts and full of crap. First of all the old meters rarely spin backwards, the majority of them have a notch to prevent backwards motion. Unless you're one of the lucky few the best that you can get with a solar feed in is that the meter barely moves and you get an estimated payment for the feed in.

Second, I don't see how smart meters would be detrimental to someone with solar. I have an old meter but with solar. I want the smart meter in because I can avail of getting payment per unit sent to the grid, get cheaper night rates to charge battery etc. I have more control over how my house is run and how much it costs. This is with a heat pump to boot. It's been miles cheaper this year compared to last with an old gas boiler and no solar.

Finally, the idea that they'll figure you're on the dole (wtf?) is absurd. Working from home is a thing and it's extremely common since COVID. Use of that type of metric to target people for whatever would be a massive privacy violation and leave them open to legal issues.

Potential-Monke · 28-10-2022 1:30am

I doubt they going to be able to tell the difference between a laptop being used to work vs a laptop being used to relax.

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