BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

Yeah I don't get it either. If he wants to try and keep the ERG onside couldn't he just appointed one of their other headbanger members?

But that would imply that the wider Tory party does not agree with the main points that the ERG are running.

There has never been any rebellion against the deal. The Tory party, as a whole, is deeply anti EU, and the ERG are just the collection of those with the drive to ensure it happens.

Has there been any likening him to Number 5 from Umbrella Academy yet? 😁

The updated thread title reminded me of the old song 99 bottles of beer -

99 Conservative MPs on the wall,

99 Conservative MPs,

They can’t shut their gobs, they act like knobs,

98 Conservative MPs on the wall…

'Perceived competence' - what a joke. Everyone could see Sunak was miles more capable than Truss yet the members voted for her because she represented their views. I can't be sure that the members voted for Truss over Sunak because of her skin colour (though it wouldn't surprise me). I'd be fairly certain they voted for her because of what she was advocating, which would have me doubt their judgement.

There is a clear difference between the profile of the party membership when so many members are rich, old white men and yet their parliamentary party is far more diverse as you love to point out. Given the PP has avoided a membership vote for the leadership this time suggests there is quite a disconnect between the MPs and the membership.

And again, your defence of the Tories from racism is to point at the prominent members who are from minorities. How about how their policies in shaping the British state impact on ethnic minorities? That's what the charge of racism is related to.

There was loads of back-slapping regarding their being no white men in the four great offices and yet three of them resigned in record time due to incompetence.

If that had been Labour, Tory fanboys would be banging on about tokenism. So in the case of the Tories, what is it: tokenism or general incompetence? Neither are reassuring answers.

Found it odd that Sunak in his speech was so openly critical of Truss and talked about 'undoing damage'... any of his fellow Conservative MPs or indeed anyone working for him .. should be taking note of that....

Braverman being back in 1 week after leaving the same job is a farce especially considering the reasons it happened

I knew it. I knew she wouldn’t have supported Sunak without being guaranteed that role. This tells me everything I need to know about the character of Rishi Sunak anyway. No doubt justifying welcoming a fascist into the Home Office in order to ensure “party unity”. 🙄

Having a vile extremist who is devoid of empathy, like Braverman, in this position, is genuinely better in Sunak’s mind than having a GE. Just absolutely disgusting.

Braverman, Zahawi and Cleverly have my eyebrows raised.

I can see exactly what he's up to - put hard right wingers into the government in order to keep the right wing of the party / Johnson supporters on board but it seems risky. It almost appears he's far more concerned with the party than with the country.

Yes, you called it yesterday and I dismissed it out of hand. Turns out I over-estimated Sunak.

One assumes that Braverman is now free to pursue her anti-immigration and anti-refugee policies (the ones that she had a huge bust up with Truss over). It's a bit of a shock appointment to be honest, even if we can see what he's up to.