Leinster v Munster match thread

22-10-2022 07:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119780988#Comment_119780988

He expected osborne to run directly into him the 6’7 lock?

Akrasia · 22-10-2022 07:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119780998#Comment_119780998

Yeah. Dr Evil/jean Kleyn

You do know his evil plan relied entirely on Osbourne running directly into him. Most kickers run around the other players instead if straight into them

It was a rugby incident, an accident, that should have been at the very most a penalty, and that penalty could easily have gone against Osbourne for taking out a guy in the air.

22-10-2022 07:59PM

Why do Munster carry James French as a professional rugby player if they wouldn't bring him off the bench today? Their scrum was getting absolutely demolished and still it made more sense to make Loughman switch across and play 80 than give the guy a chance?

French is about to turn 24 and has been in the Munster set up since the 2018 season. What is the thinking?

Faugheen · 22-10-2022 07:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781001#Comment_119781001

Because the ball was over his head before he even left the ground.

Clegg · 22-10-2022 07:59PM

A rugby incident involving deliberately dropping an elbow into the head of an unprotected player.

Nice one.

Akrasia · 22-10-2022 07:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119780993#Comment_119780993

I said he deliberately committed a dangerous act not caring whether he injured a player or not.

He did that, and a player got injured.

That's a fact.

Unless you're prepared to argue that he didn't know he was diving into that ruck from about 70 degrees from the gate.

You can try to argue that, but it would be arguing against reality.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 22-10-2022 08:01PM

To me on Osbourne Kleyn whats important in terms of sanction is

At the moment that Kleyn jumped could Osbourne have turned aside. Personally I feel that Osbourne was committed running when he kicked. He took 2 steps after he kicked. Thats few enough that he probably couldn't have turned.

So at the moment Kleyn jumped the inevitable outcome was a collision with Osbourne.

Did Kleyn have a chance of making the block. IE was he genuinely competing for the ball or was it a reckless jump with no hope. If he had a chance of catching the ball he has a much better argument that he was competing for the ball which I believe is important in terms of sanction.

22-10-2022 08:02PM

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Yeah, Doris was superb. I don't think Coombes had a bad game (and he showed a lovely bit of awareness and skill for the pass to set up his cousin's try), but it's not hard to see on days like today why Doris is the more complete player who has pretty much always been picked ahead of him (including back to underage days). Doris does a lot more work around the field, and is more dynamic in the carries with a step.

22-10-2022 08:03PM

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How is clearing out a ruck dangerous play, you muppet?

Faugheen · 22-10-2022 08:03PM

As for performances. I thought Rory Scannell played well for Munster, Hodnett too.

Crowley needs to be given the keys at 10. I genuinely believe he’s come on a lot over the last year and that the World Cup is a genuine possibility for him.

For Leinster, Ringrose was the star of the show. Funnily enough a few days after some were (yet again) suggesting that someone else should be playing ahead of him at 13 for Ireland. It always happens and the same nay-sayers will go back into their holes until the Six Nations comes around and we’ll have the same conversations again. Rinse and repeat.

Burkie1203 · 22-10-2022 08:03PM

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How do you know toner committed a deliberate act, are you a mind reader ???

Or are you just full of sh1t

Akrasia · 22-10-2022 08:05PM

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Coombes had to be direct because we were missing a lot of power due to injuries so he spent the game soaking up clearouts and carrying into contact (to suck in defenders)

Normally, Coombes would be free to play more varied rugby

But even still, he produced a sublime pass to put his brother in for that try

22-10-2022 08:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781042#Comment_119781042

Are we talking about this one? Seems clean to me. If it isnt; there should be a lot more penalties in each game.

https://twitter.com/ek_rugby/status/1583884467499782144?s=46&t=gMiKgHI50uY-VRoLqG65XA

you dont often see neck rolls where they go straight back.

22-10-2022 08:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781056#Comment_119781056

I don't think there is anything wrong with that, as in no foul play from Crowley, but Byrne was on the ball long enough that he should have had the penalty. Clear no release.

Akrasia · 22-10-2022 08:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781030#Comment_119781030

I'd like to know this too.

Maybe he was just selected to have the required cover on the bench and wasn't actually fit

Munster were gutted with injuries

He is in his first senior contract, and it's only a 1 year deal. Could have been a financial decision because he's cheap and we needed to cut our wage bill

22-10-2022 08:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781070#Comment_119781070

Yea, another ref gives that.

22-10-2022 08:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119780649#Comment_119780649

If you read my post from the beginning to the end - challenging I grant you, given that the second sentence was a massive 9 words long- then you'd have understood that it remains to be seen whether or not you were posting through your hole. If Klein is cited, then, as my first sentence made clear, your opinion will be validated.

22-10-2022 08:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781080#Comment_119781080

I only remember him playing in that game against wasps last year with tons of people out… and he was really good in the loose…. but dodgy in the scrum.

22-10-2022 08:16PM

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Don't even know though how you look the guy in the eye in the dressing room afterwards today. It couldn't have gone any worse in those last 20 mins had French been given some game time, as worst case they'd get minced in the scrum, which was happening anyway. The damage to the player's confidence must be worse from thinking your head coach (a top class prop himself in his heyday) doesn't trust you at all rather than just getting worked over by a top class international prop like Porter.

Akrasia · 22-10-2022 08:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781093#Comment_119781093

Yeah, thats his only cap for munster.

I don't know why he wasn't brought on. There must be a reason. Nobody plays without a tighthead prop if they can avoid it

22-10-2022 08:20PM

All in all, something for everyone. Leinster took care of business. Doris was class as was most of their other top guys. I thought Frawley looked pretty good at FB.

Munster got to see who would stand up and who wouldn’t. That’s helpful during a rebuild. They can build a real team around Crowley, Ahern, Hodnett, Barron imo.

And Ulster have the ****, so they should be good for a win next week.

Akrasia · 22-10-2022 08:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781051#Comment_119781051

Am I a mind reader? No, Does Toner know the laws of rugby? Of course he does.

Are you suggesting that Toner, a massively experienced player in a position that involves joining rucks tens of times per game, didn't know he was coming in from the side?

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/rugby/munster-leinster-gavin-coombes-devin-toner-255234

You can see the gif here. Unless you're saying Toner is an idiot, he knew what he was doing

aloooof · 22-10-2022 08:23PM

Anyone blaming Osborne is talking nonsense.

Also anyone claiming Kleyn deliberately elbowed Osborne / is a scumbag is also talking nonsense.

Former Coach · 22-10-2022 08:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119780459#Comment_119780459

Something did-he got mullered!

Akrasia · 22-10-2022 08:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781117#Comment_119781117

Looking forward to next week. Have my tickets already

Could well be a sell-out

aloooof · 22-10-2022 08:27PM

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For Leinster, Ringrose was the star of the show. Funnily enough a few days after some were (yet again) suggesting that someone else should be playing ahead of him at 13 for Ireland

I mean, this is just not true, Faugheen. The discussion was about Ringrose as wing cover, giving Farrell more comfort selecting a centre at 23 (which he seems happy doing).

That can happen with Ringrose starting at 13.

I even posted 12. Henshaw 13. Ringrose and 23. Aki.

You seem to talk any even mild criticism of Ringrose as a personal affront. And in those case it wasn’t even criticism!

Anyways…

Akrasia · 22-10-2022 08:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781124#Comment_119781124

Yep. It was an accident, play on imo,

clsmooth · 22-10-2022 08:29PM

A lot of arguing in bad faith going on here.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781084#Comment_119781084

Strangely aggressive response. Apologies if I upset you with my initial post.

I think we can all agree that an important thing was that none of our front liners got injured tonight before the Autumn Internationals.

Edit: just seen Joey Carbery is a doubt.

22-10-2022 08:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119781134#Comment_119781134

I’m worried about what kind of team we can put out there.

normally i think international window games are good for us because i usually think we have the best players who arent selected for ireland.

lawrencesummers · 22-10-2022 08:30PM

“He jumped after the ball was kicked”

was there ever a stupider thing said????

You hardly expect hit to jump before the ball is kicked.

Some lads never held a rugby ball let alone played the game!!!

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