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Galway traffic

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Just as an example, Olso Bar to The Cornstore at 1AM on Saturday night/Sunday morning according to Google Maps:

    12-16 minutes via Salmon Weir Bridge

    12-20 minutes via Qunicentary Bridge


    I don't think I'd classify that as "making it very difficult"? And that's if we went for the full Dutch treatment where you can only access an urban neighbourhood on the eastern bank of a river by car from an easterly direction. I don't think anyone really expects Galway is going to go full Dutch anytime in the next few decades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    It's been pointed out many many many times that the car restriction suggestions aren't 24/7



    P.S. Thanks @[Deleted User] for continuing to provide facts and figures for these discussions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Ya he really blows the fact-less posters out of the water with his charts and graphs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Very true. I remember sitting in tutorials in the NUIG in the evenings in one of the towers on the Concourse ( end of the 90's 98/99 )and seeing the lights of the car traffic on the East side of the bridge stuck in car traffic heading West Bound - so after a decade of it been built we started to see the effects of induced demand at peak "rush" hour times.

    We will see the same issue occur again if Ring Road gets built as the other elements of the GTS strategy are so weak, ARUPS own stats for the Oral hearing also showed this. For about a decade after it is built, it will have seem to have worked with the extra road capacity it will provide but then after 10/15r years we will back to the same situation again. At the end of the day the throughput of a lane for private cars cannot compete with cycle or bus lanes, trams etc. Electric cars / diesel cars /petrol cars - they are all the same in that regard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,741 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    There are posters out there who want to close all but the Quin Bridge to private cars, 24x7.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭what_traffic




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,570 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Build another. Or even two.

    And this in the City where City Centre cycling is being promoted at an almost genocidal level.

    Its not an either/or, you build it all. That's cities.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    Where would you build the next two ring roads? Over/under the lake? Under the bay?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    The Paris example demonstrates my earlier post well - they added ring roads without active travel infrastructure and now that they're several ring roads deep they're now going back to try solve the initial problem by giving people more efficient and sustainable travel options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Concrete Lough Atalia and the Corrib, sure what's the harm. Some of the bay too while we're at it. More concrete and roads the better!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Are you for real?

    "City Centre cycling is being promoted at an almost genocidal level"

    Weren't you the same guy/gal claiming to have previously worked for TII or the NTA or some similar body, while at the same time demonstrating a completely warped perception of road traffic legislation?

    And now you're genuinely trying to say with a straight face that encouraging people to use a bicycle when they can is 'genocidal'? God help us as a country if that's the kind cluelessness demonstrated by people with supposed professional expertise.



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Delays expected during peak times between Oranmore and Rathmorrisey junctions on the M6 with 1 Lane closed until Thursday to facilitate works.

    The article is not clear if its the inbound or outbound lane, I'm guessing inbound though




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    What's the story with Kingston Road?

    They had been doing road works on it. Is that finished now?

    I was on it the other day and the road surface is a dog's dinner.

    I am assuming they are going to finish it off properly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Irish Water contractors laying new water mains. It really is a mess and I also hope they finish it off properly. But, having seen SSE Airtricity do something similar when laying new high voltage cables, and leaving it in a similar mess, I wouldn't get my hopes up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    Galway needs a BRT like the Belfast Glider. This is where the focus should be.

    "The Department for Infrastructure said the initial phase of the service had been a "huge success" in its first four years in operation.

    It said: "It has helped transform and modernise public transport services in the east and west of the city."

    The department said the number of people using "sustainable public transport" on those routes had increased by 70%."

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭MenloPete


    "The Department for Infrastructure invested £90m in the Glider service and hopes it will encourage people to use public transport."

    Galway City Council demonstrated one on these buses years ago outside the Great Southern/Meyrick/Hardiman Hotel, but of course did nothing, preferring to spend ten times as much on a ring road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Does anyone use the TFi Bus App in Galway city?

    I don't know about the technology side of it but when I use the Dublin Bus App and it says Due I look up and there is the bus just coming around the corner. It's almost as if when it says Due it comes into sight. When it says three minutes it comes in three minutes in 99% of the time.

    The TFI App for Galway is somewhat different. (Maybe the technology is different?) I can be waiting for a bus and it says Now but the Now can be five minutes or even more. Why is that? I was waiting at one bus stop in the suburbs recently, where there was no traffic, and it said Now yet I was waiting ten minutes for the thing.

    The last day both the sign at the bus stop and the App said 20 minutes. I said F... this. So I started walking. As I got to my destination about 30 minutes later I checked the App and it said Now i.e. arriving at the bus stop I left half an hour ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    Some routes have realtime tracking, most if not all the Bus Eireann routes. City Direct don't have live tracking so estimates are based on the schedule and are highly inaccurate unfortunately and buses often don't show up. Which route?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭bobbyss



    Westside route. The realtime means nothing at all if the time is consistently wrong. I would assume that if it says Now that the bus is reasonably close by. But I also check the stop just prior to mine and it says Now also!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    There are a few routes though Westside. 404 and 405 should be realtime, 412 times will be based on the timetable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭bobbyss




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    Which route..?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,741 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    I am convinced that the drivers have some way of overriding the tracking, so that the displays show the scheduled times instead of the actual ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭bobbyss




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    There are multiple routes through westside. On some you should expect realtime tracking, on others you should not rely on the times/app. Without sharing which route # then I can't advise any further, tried to help!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    That was just that one flute who doesn't seem to know what's going on. He thought it was already part of the plan and that it was impossible to do anything else. Think he also said he doesn't know anything about Galway and doesn't care, but maybe I'm mixing him up with someone else with that part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    I suppose this came up before:

    This shows what we can do with the bypass... If we plan it right...

    It is about getting cars out of the city and then using te space for PT and active travel... We can't have a reliable PT if we don't get cars out of the city...

    Cars are int he city because we have twice the population and 4 times the cars we had when last bridge was built. There just isn't enough infrastructure to sustain the population and crazy if we see where Galway population is going.

    Galway has a big hither-land of people commuting in and out of everyday. I know many people who leave Galway for work, most across the city and come in as well. Park and Ride is just not suitable in many cases... Explain how you get to Dangan if you live in Tuam.... Yes this might be posible for some journeys with increased PT but it will not be enough with out a growth in road infrasturce to allow for more buses..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Thank you. You have already helped by saying which routes should be realtime.

    I ran and ran to make a connecting bus recently and a quick look at the app meant I had a minute to make it. I did just make it with no time to spare. Turned out that the bus I caught was itself at least half an hour late.

    The real question I have is why the app says Now, for example, and yet 5 minutes later you are still waiting. In the Dublin Bus app Due basically means seconds and I can see it coming.



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  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some additional pedestrian works carried out by the council

    Its a shame they didn't try to make this fully accessible by removing those steps



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