BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? threadbans in OP

gmisk · 20-10-2022 08:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119769287#Comment_119769287

That wasn't from last night....

But the Bryant photo was pretty damning. Lots of leaks from conservatives so likely true imo.

Loafing Oaf · 20-10-2022 08:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119769342#Comment_119769342

This one?

Don't really see how. Assuming JRM is the tall guy with his back to camera?

Peregrinus · 20-10-2022 08:47AM

According to Robert Peston (ITV News), the Cabinet want Truss to remain in office until 31 October, so that Jeremy Hunt, the new Chancellor, can deliver his mini-budget scheduled for that day, designed to bring the public finances back on track and stabilise the markets (which, to be fair, is a highly desirable thing).

But, of course, the new Chancellor is widely regarded by the loony right of the Tory party as having been forced on Truss in a move that some describe as a constitutional coup. They loathe him, and they do not want him to be in control of the public finances. They want Truss's original agenda of tax cuts, supply side reforms and "trickle down" measures implemented, come what may.

Which means, ironically, that those who put Truss in office in the first place and who until now have been the strongest voices in support of her are likely to pivot, and to become the keenest to see her removed from office promptly, since that is the only way to derail Hunt's work.

Hoop66 · 20-10-2022 08:48AM

Imagine being "manhandled" by Rees-Mogg though...you'd never live it down.

tanko · 20-10-2022 09:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119769411#Comment_119769411

The alternative was getting manhandled by Therese Coffey.

PommieBast · 20-10-2022 10:26AM

@Faugheen

The Tories are absolutely f*cked in the next election. I would be inclined to think that, if they get rid of Truss now, they should take the electoral hit now instead of allow all of this to fester until 2024 with a third or possibly even 4th PM in this cycle. It will only get worse before it gets any better for them.

I take the opposite view - they still have a year or so to do what their members and donors what them to do, so they'll carry on right up to the moment the music stops.

El Weirdo · 20-10-2022 10:28AM

Ah here...

Nadine Dorries calling for Boris to come back.

https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1583033679990861825?s=20&t=98pe_lSLAVn_tkBR7YfxcQ

Spanish Eyes · 20-10-2022 10:32AM

Isn't there a constituency boundary revision due in May 23, which will benefit the Tories. I wonder if a GE will be postponed as long as possible to minimise seat loss.

breezy1985 · 20-10-2022 10:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119769837#Comment_119769837

There can be “no coronation of previously failed candidates” if Truss is no longer PM,

But it's ok to have a coronation of a failed PM 🤣

Yurt2 · 20-10-2022 10:45AM

Another Tory PM? The UK needs a broom and a general election. The institutions of the state have been overran by blundering and malicious idiots of the worst sort.

I know we're all fond of saying "worst government ever" but this really has to be the worst pack of wasters the UK has ever had. Arrogant, thick, malevolent, incompetent, dogmatic.

One Who Waits... · 20-10-2022 10:46AM

Not a politics nerd by any means but it's hugely entertaining watching the non-stop stream of Brexit chickens coming home to roost. Only way yesterday could have been any better would have been if Rees-Mogg had been chinned during the alleged manhandling.

Yes, I know violence is bad, m'kay, but...

BonnieSituation · 20-10-2022 10:47AM

TBF, he at least had a mandate. Thrusting someone else onto this steaming heap will not go well.

Yurt2 · 20-10-2022 10:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119769901#Comment_119769901

Yeah I'm surprised fists didn't start to fly yesterday.

breezy1985 · 20-10-2022 10:55AM

The One Nation Tory group are meeting to choose a single successor to get behind.

Also the 1922 boss just called Truss into a meeting. (No confirmation as to whether or not he is wearing a grey suit)

Brussels Sprout · 20-10-2022 10:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119768629#Comment_119768629

I sincerely doubt that such a loophole exists. Yes, they have market experts to have their say on prices but a big input is generated algorithmically. Aaron Rogan's excellent book about Paddy Power, Punters, details how they made this transition. They're also owned by the same parent company that owns Betfair so their prices are generally in tune with the prices over there (which in turn are driven by the weight of money).

thebaz · 20-10-2022 11:05AM

I can't see her lasting the day - shes been called to the Tory 1922 Committee - even if she goes its not over , already calls for that schemer Borris to return as leader - idiots.

Floppybits · 20-10-2022 11:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119769992#Comment_119769992

Reporting that Brady and Truss are meeting today and Brady will tell her that she has lost the support of the party. Not sure how many letters have been sent into the Commitee saying they can no longer support Truss.

Surely if she goes there has to be a general election? Sunak must be wetting himself laughing at the mess that has been created.

Shelga · 20-10-2022 11:10AM

Apparently Truss herself requested the meeting? But even if that’s the case, sounds like it’s coming to a head, one way or another. Think the lettuce will outlast her.

BonnieSituation · 20-10-2022 11:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119769945#Comment_119769945

Truss called that meeting

PropJoe10 · 20-10-2022 11:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119769945#Comment_119769945

I don't understand how they even think they can "all get behind" a single candidate at this stage. Wasn't that meant to be the point of the long and drawn out leadership contest? They are a laughing stock now and there needs to be a general election ASAP. They've no mandate whatsoever.

Sleepy · 20-10-2022 11:18AM

Is there a fixed term Truss has to stay in office for in order to secure a PM's pension? If so, that's the date I'd be betting on her resigning, surely there's nothing else for her to stay in the job for at this stage?

Waterford Whispers on the money here!

https://twitter.com/WhispersNewsLTD/status/1583055176083984384

Floppybits · 20-10-2022 11:19AM

Would all this shenanigans have happened if Sunak had won the leadership race?

Shelga · 20-10-2022 11:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770042#Comment_119770042

I think they would have eventually turned on each other, but nowhere near as quickly. Lots of them seem to hate Sunak. But he wouldn’t have crashed the economy. But again- he’s pro-Brexit! Fundamentally at odds with the concept of economic growth.

They’re all complete fruitcakes. There is no one decent left.

Wanderer78 · 20-10-2022 11:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770067#Comment_119770067

the tories have been disconnected for years now, theyve just been accelerating the uk's problems, and labour arent all that far behind them either

Floppybits · 20-10-2022 11:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770067#Comment_119770067

They do seem to be fruitcakes and people need to ask how did they all get into such high positions. But is the leader of the Tories really the leader as it seems to me that this 1922 committee are the ones that seem to have the power and are the ones pulling the strings.

thebaz · 20-10-2022 11:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770067#Comment_119770067

and Borris is the Mastermind , waiting menacingly in the wings as ever, the bufoon

breezy1985 · 20-10-2022 11:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770025#Comment_119770025

Says a no.10 source.

Her own spokesperson said everyone was shocked when he suddenly showed up. Both could be true but it doesn't look likely.

Brussels Sprout · 20-10-2022 11:32AM

Prediction: By the end of today either she will have announced her resignation or the 1922 committee will announce that they're planning on changing their rules so that they can have a vote of confidence in her.

Wanderer78 · 20-10-2022 11:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770110#Comment_119770110

id say shes toast, some mess over there

Shelga · 20-10-2022 11:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770110#Comment_119770110

God, would she really endure the humiliation of severely losing a no-confidence vote, just so she can be PM another 3-4 days. Sadly, I already know the answer is yes.

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BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? threadbans in OP