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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    The Iranian drones are apparently "hardly visible" on radar, so it doesn't seem like the Gepard would be as effective.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Probably,there is no point negotiating with Russia anyway,its not going to be any better unless they are stopped now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭thomil


    Gepard has a visual targeting option in addition to its fire control radar. In addition, it is possible for Gepard's radar to lock on to a target that has been designated by the visual system.

    I think we're back at the point where organisations like the Royal Observer Corps in the UK might be helpful: Volunteers with binoculars, aircraft recognition books and radios/phones to report incoming drones.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,314 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    People who admire Putin, or who have a partisan hatred for the West that aligns them with dictators like Putin, are "smart" enough to know they can't just express that support for Putin anymore, especially after 24th February 2022. So instead they indirectly support the Kremlin's talking points by concern-trolling anything negative about Ukraine, or it's leader, or it's international support. Or attempting to portray Ukraine as being "as bad" as their invaders, all carefully masked under the pretense of criticising "both sides".

    Putin is the 20 year head of a highly corrupt, authoritarian regime. Opposition has been eliminated, free press criminalised, it's a totalitarian klepocracy. In complete contrast, Ukraine is a sovereign democratic country, espouses freedom of press, rights, etc. Like any democratic nation it has it's relative issues, but the contrast between Ukraine and Russia couldn't be any starker.

    Putin has fabricated false pretexts to spark a conflict, to annex territory, to endlessly meddle in Ukraine's politics for years, as part of an imperialist agenda that is a secret to no one. The entire thing has culminated in a black/white Hitler style invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Ukrainians are being slaughtered so Putin can put flags on a map and force their children to speak Russian.

    You're in here expressing the view that "both sides" are as bad as each other.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 MoxoM


    Conspiracy Theory or Not?

    Iran has a nuclear deal in place with many world powers so to stop it acquiring or producing Nuclear Weapons.

    Could Iran have a deal in place that in return for supplied weapons and expected upcoming sanctions, Russia will supply Iran with Nuclear weapons or the capability and resources to build them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    Israel have rejected a request from Ukraine to provide air defences allow a call between defence ministers.

    Not clear if that equals a rejection of any requests for tech (though I suppose in fairness it likely reads that way).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 MoxoM


    Probably concerned that their tech goes missing and information related to their tech falls into the wrong hands



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,922 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    Technically they haven't - they're just avoiding them so that they don't have to. Kinda like avoiding meeting up with someone who you know is going to ask you for a loan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Rather than waiting for air defenses give the the ability to hit Russian infrastructure in return,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,922 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    People who admire Putin, or who have a partisan hatred for the West that aligns them with dictators like Putin, are "smart" enough to know they can't just express that support for Putin anymore, especially after 24th February 2022. So instead they indirectly support the Kremlin's talking points by concern-trolling anything negative about Ukraine, or it's leader, or it's international support. Or attempting to portray Ukraine as being "as bad" as their invaders, all carefully masked under the pretense of criticising "both sides".


    Absolutely. It's a tactic that's been used for decades by the Republican party in the USA in the politics of race. Here's what their strategist, Lee Atwater had to say about it in 1981:

    Y'all don't quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, "N*gger, n*gger, n*gger". By 1968, you can't say "n*gger"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busingstates' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this", is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N*gger, n*gger". So, any way you look at it, race is coming on the back-burner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭maebee


    A news blackout in southern Ukraine means "something big is going on", military expert Professor Michael Clarke has told Sky News.

    Pity he doesn't expand a bit more on what the "something big" could be.

    https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-latest-news-putin-bombs-energy-facilities-across-ukraine-as-30-of-power-stations-wiped-out-12541713



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,314 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    That is precisely the excuse that Putin wants. Ukrainians know this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    But to not even discuss giving help, against Iranian drones of all things 💩



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    He's hammering them day and night as it is ,

    Let's not suggest Ukraine hits them back putin might escalate.....

    This is a war ,morality doesn't come into it ,

    This utter crap oh were with you ukraine in your struggles but if you's hit Moscow we're withdrawing all support....

    Whats the point, other than the hope Ukraine surrenders and gives into all of his demands



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The blackout stated a few days ago for the next stage of the Kherson counter attack



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,314 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    There are subtle rules and levels to everything that's going on.

    If Ukraine starts systematically launching missiles into Russia that gives Putin everything he needs, suddenly Russia is under attack from NATO, the Motherland, this is no longer an operation but all out war to protect the Russian way of life, all options on the table, everything must be mobilised to defend Russia, a million men, nuclear weapons.

    Unfortunately it can get a whole lot worse. The Ukrainians know this, they know Putin and the Russians better than any of us, hence they are being smart about it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,598 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    At 20k a pop, can they not just send a swarm of 1000 drones directly at Moscow?

    I can't believe the price of these, cheaper than a new economy car. It's a worrying vision of the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Not a chance. The ties between Russia and Israel are too strong to allow Russia to arm Iran with nuclear weapons. Iran's main reason for wanting nuclear arms is to counter Israel's possession of them. And even if Russia pivoted totally away from Israel and properly towards Iran, there's no way Israel is going to let Iran develop nuclear weapons. And Israel isn't a country that solely relies on sanctions and diplomacy to get what it wants.

    Now I know that Russia are effectively fighting on the same side as Iranian backed militias in Syria, but up until now, Israel and Russian have managed to keep that from getting between them. Russia is playing a dangerous game in courting Iranian support, and this is exactly what Ukraine is exploiting in asking Israel for air defense systems. Ukraine knows full well that they won't get them, but in publicly asking for them, they're shining a spotlight on the fact that Russia isn't acting like Israel's friend in cozying up to their mortal enemy. If Russia keeps going down this path, the pressure on Israel to abandon Russia is going to be immense. And very difficult, given that Israel has one of the biggest Russian-speaking populations outside of the post-Soviet countries.



  • Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Indeed- isn’t it funny that Pedo Putin can bomb Ukrainians and advocate the rape and torture of women and children but if they retaliate, then it’s oh no we can’t have that.

    Im getting sick of this all words no action on behalf of the west



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 TAFKA_hometruths_real


    The RAF Rivet Joint had visible fighter escorts for it's sortie over the Black Sea today....

    Wallace also on last min trip to US..

    Something is definitely afoot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,314 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    We can't attack nuclear-armed Russia, it's not an option. Of course it isn't fair, but that's the reality. The very best we can do is support/arm Ukrainians, and even then there are conditional limitations to that (e.g. long range Himars)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,525 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I imagine the problem with bombing Moscow is that it would be 'perceived' as stooping to the (very low) level of the Russians.

    It's interesting also that the legions of Putin bots have been unable to explain how a supposedly neo-Nazi government in Kyiv haven't once targeted Russian civilians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 MoxoM


    Did the media say if the Nordstream explosions were caused internally or externally. Some of the images show metal facing outwards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Thats a good point. I might focus on that over the coming days. Thanks for the suggestion..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Given the amount of -gathering assets concentrating on the Moldova border today, I would tend to agree. Something is focussing their attention on the region.



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