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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    Aren't you very patronising!

    Ukraine haven't always had the HIMARS. They stopped the Russians from taking Kyiv, and have proven themselvesto be better soldiers than the Russians in every respect.

    Why don't you go and sign up for the war, show your obvious patriotism to the motherland, instead of talking out your hole on here.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭zv2


    At this point concessions to Putin would make the west look weak. Burn the bridges and move forward.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Posts: 394 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I’m not taking away from the Ukrainian bravery and fight. We’re obviously not talking about the US-trained Afghani “army”. But if any of the posters here think what has been achieved could be done without the US they are living in cloud cuckoo land and shouldn’t be taken seriously on this thread.

    Zelensky has understood this dynamic from Day 1 and is why he has played such a blinder shaming the West into supporting him. He knows the day the weapons stop coming its curtains for his war effort.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Are you familiar with the phrase duirt bran liom go nduirt bean lei? except in your case, there's not even a bean is there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Psychedelic Hedgehog


    May we ask, if you're talking Ukranian bravery, why the Russian flag in your avatar?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,527 ✭✭✭circadian


    Sometimes looking at a users post history brings a lot of sense to their nonsensical arguments. Sign up in 2014, disappear effectively until 2021 and then defending Alex Jones in relation to Sandy Hook "he said he was sorry" WTF?


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119425585/#Comment_119425585


    Can't tell if genuine or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    I don't know about that. For the first week or so into the invasion the Russian terrorists got their ass handed to them in Bucha and Irpin and at that point the US aid hadn't even started. The CIA thought the invasion would topple the Ukranian government in less than two weeks and were slow to react. They felt it might lead to another disaster like what happened in Afghanistan.

    The footage at the time shows columns of tanks and APCs turning and retreating when two or three are taken out using ether Javelins, NLAWs and Stugna-Ps.

    The Russians obviously thought the most that would be asked of them would be to act as riot police, keeping the cities secure while a new government was installed. Instead they never got near Kiev, they failed to take Chernihiv or Kharkiv just across the border. Thousands of Russia's best terrorists were killed outside the cities.

    One of the main reasons seems to be Russia's policy of promoting terrorists based on their obedience and corruption rather than intelligence, hence so many high ranking officers getting picked off by snipers and drones in the early stages of the war. One of the main reasons the Russians were overrun in Kharkiv is that the replacements in the higher ranks kept well away from artillery range so there was a complete failure of leadership and discipline when the counter attacks started.

    Apart from the US, Russia's greatest enemy is its own incompetence and the cowardice in the ranks.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Whos side are you on with a russian flag on your profile i wonder

    I smell Prigozhin troll from a mile away

    There are atleast 32 countries giving supplies and weapons to Ukraine,so what.

    Does that mean they have a saying about how Ukraina should should act



  • Posts: 394 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Putin had had enough with the dicking around by the Ukrainians and NATO on his border. I’m not sure he was right to invade but I can see how he felt he had to draw a line in the sand. No one here wants to accept his reasons and just wants to say he’s a “tyrant” or “crazy”.

    None of that takes away from the bravery and fights shown by the Ukrainians. I support Russia but am not so involved that I can’t see Ukraine’s point of view or respect them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @[Deleted User]

    “To be an enemy of the U.S. is dangerous…”. However when the realpolitik kicks in Zelensky could well be taught the second half : “… but to be a friend is fatal.”.

    To be an enemy of Russia means you'll be pushed out of a window. To be a friend of Russia's - they'll just say you fell.

    Think Ukraine will take its chances being backed by USA and the West. Only countries lining up to be friends with Russia these days are the ones who think they can exploit it or are on the outs with the US.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,204 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Russians have been planning missile strikes on the Ukrainian capital and infrastructure since the beginning of October

    ▪️According to Ukraine's military intelligence, Russian occupation forces were instructed by the Kremlin to prepare massive missile strikes on Ukraine's civilian infrastructure on October 2 and 3.

    ▪️The military units of strategic and long-range aviation received orders to prepare for the task of massive missile attacks. The goals were determined precisely by the objects of critical civilian infrastructure and the central areas of densely populated Ukrainian cities.

    ▪️On October 8, seven Tu-160 strategic bombers were relocated to the Deer airfield from Engels airfield and equipped with Kh-101 cruise missiles.

    If true, the Orcs probably blew their own bridge.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Putin invaded Soverign countries, occupies and steals land,kills innocent civilians,holds false referendums at gunpoint and threatens with nuclear war and you support him.

    Good logic,Champ



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,978 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Embassies and consulates are not sovereign territory. See the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. They are inviolate, but that's a different meaning. They still remain under the sovereign jurisdiction of the country in which they are located.

    I hate to say it, but if I were to put money on it, that is a Ukrainian Su-24. Difficult to tell with the tail burned, both Russia and Ukraine have similar color schemes but I think the tail marking looks more trident than star., and the Russians seem to be showing a preference for lobbing missiles from a long ways away. Here's a Ukrainian Su-24 to compare with your photo.

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    This is a Russian Su-25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    'he had to draw a line in the sand': it wasn't his own **** sand in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Woah there horse !

    So you're suggesting that there are justifiable reasons for visiting such torment & suffering upon innocent people.

    I know you can construct a sentence, that doesn't mean your sense of fairness enjoys an equal level of intelligence quotient.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Good points, I'm less certain now, especially since there's no information that the driver was recently conscripted for instance.



  • Posts: 394 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I agree with most of this. Whose heart is more in the fight ? Ukraine. No question. Are Russians falling over themselves to participate in the war ? No. They’d rather be getting on with their lives.

    The debate (or at least this last part of it) is whether Ukraine can continue to fight successfully if the US no longer supports her? I don’t care if you have painted your granny yellow and blue and tattooed her with Zelensky’s head… the war ends if the US wants to negotiate an end to it. Look how much the US has given compared to Ukraine’s EU “allies”. It’s tuppence ha’penny from us. I’ll give you the first few months… but today ? Would Ukraine still be in with a shout today with US arms + $$$ ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11



    NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg: We condemn the horrific and indiscriminate Russian attacks against civilians

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭doyle55


    Would Ukraine still be in with a shout today with US arms + $$$ ?

    God bless America Jean, and God bless Joe Biden.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,852 ✭✭✭✭josip


    How does someone end up supporting Russia jf/monsieur? Perfectly understandable if you're living there or were from there originally and still have fondness for the regime I suppose?

    But if none of those and given everything that has happened in the last 6 months, is supporting them a contrarian decision? Or a reluctance to admit that your moral compass was askew initially? Or have the last 6 months just been confirmation bias, only seeking out media reports that reconfirm your original choice? Do you ever have moments of introspection?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭zv2


    NATO on Russia's border? What about nuclear Russia on Ukraine's border? At any rate, this NATO business is only an excuse. He would have invaded anyway. As for you being on Russia's side - this war is now beyond politics, it is a moral issue and I cannot agree with anyone who sides with a barbaric, cruel nation filled with lies, bullying and torture chambers. The Russian leaders treat their people like children or cattle. How can anyone of conscience support such a nation?

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,204 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    In the US, I know that Marines at any rank, including generals, do PT every day and I'd be very surprised if retired ones don't keep it up.

    Not sure the requirement exists for the other branches of the service though, probably a matter of pride with them. Very little to be proud of in the RuSSian military.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,204 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Somebody mentioned Shay Boyes on this thread this morning. I hadn't realised that he was another Russia apologist. Just had a look on his twitter timeline....my god what a mess. It's actually even worse than Wallace & Daly's stuff:

    • An absolute obsession with making the Ukrainians out to be Nazis. Just repeatedly posting about it - even this morning after those Russian strikes
    • Two instances today alone of him retweeting posts from a suspended account (so no doubt completely unsubstantiated garbage)
    • A tweet yesterday praising Viktor Orban (bit weird from someone of "the left")
    • Retweeting Kim Dot Com commenting on a Russia Today segment
    • Retweeting right wing grifters like Paul Joseph Watson & Ian Miles Cheong and far left Putin supporters like Aaron Mate & Max Blumenthal

    I've never seen a timeline like it - it's so all over the place. He is the embodiment of the horse-shoe theory. He is clearly lost and has no ability to screen disinformation whatsoever. If he was posting in this thread he'd be banned within a few days.

    What worries me about this is that he isn't isn't just some random wealthy businessman. He is behind the ontheditch website, which, honestly, has broken some very important stories (especially about An Bord Planala). It's very telling though that they only report dirt on government TDs (make of that what you will). I for one would prefer the owners of media in this country not to be absolute lunatics.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Still missed the main part of the plant. Unless they intended to hit trees and streets... A feckin' WW2 B17 would be more accurate and a Stuka way more.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,540 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I've taken to blocking a few of these Irish based nuts on social media (even though I never interact with any of them or comment on their threads). I just don't want to read their pro-Putin bile.



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