Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Longing · 08-10-2022 08:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716373#Comment_119716373

Yes when I saw the first video clip of the bridge with the truck coming towards the camera the truck was still moving and front lights still on after explosion. The boat under the bridge diffidently carried the bomb.

Igotadose · 08-10-2022 08:50AM

CNN's picked it up the bridge story, supposedly 'fuel tank explosion'. Also mentions bombing of a cargo train in Donetsk. Ukraine has been busy.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/08/europe/crimea-bridge-explosion-intl-hnk/index.html

rogber · 08-10-2022 08:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716408#Comment_119716408

Probably the usual response: a bunch of rockets fired at civilian infrastructure, more dead innocent people.

But this is a huge attack on Putin's pride, one day after his birthday. It seems like Ukraine is really determined to call his bluff on escalation. I hope their belief that's he's all talk proves correct and that they aren't getting just a little too self confident.

Will be very curious to see if Russian "settlers" can still get out using that bridge, if not are they stranded there?

Heraclius · 08-10-2022 08:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716412#Comment_119716412

I feel sorry for any civilians caught up in the blasts tbh. I'm guessing there will be a barrage of attacks on civilians by Moscow now. Hopefully the road and rail bridges being damaged will mess up logistics for the Russian military.

08-10-2022 08:58AM

From the above video, Three explosions?

Two separate road sections and the rail line?

Doesn’t look like a single truck bomb. One word comes to mind…

GOTCHA!!!

briany · 08-10-2022 09:01AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716363#Comment_119716363

... but in seriousness, though, the Russians will obviously be looking to fix this post-haste, even if it means a bodge job that would give a structural engineer heart palpitations.

Richard Hillman · 08-10-2022 09:12AM

Do Russia only have 1 train line into Ukraine now? Specifically to support Kherson. They can move men via road but they ain't going to be driving tanks from Russia to Kherson.

If there is only 1 line, it will be very easy to sabotage.

Mech1 · 08-10-2022 09:17AM

If the Russians blow there own transport links then the drafted cannon fodder can't get to the front lines.

Furze99 · 08-10-2022 09:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716420#Comment_119716420

Reported this morning that queues at fuel stations in Crimea, so perhaps many Russian settlers are hoping to get out across the remaining bridge while they can. Isn't this about constricting supply lines to Kherson region and mounting the pressure there.

The Russian regime has already escalated their response to the max short of nuclear etc. Can hardly throw more troops or equipment in. Can't attack other states infrastructure either.

briany · 08-10-2022 09:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716420#Comment_119716420

NATO intelligence most likely has a much better idea of the likelihood of Putin going nuclear than we do and I think you'd be hearing far different rhetoric if they thought he was close to pulling the trigger.

The impression I'm getting from NATO is that their state of alert is "Possible, but not imminently so." Not a good sign, however, that Biden has been referring to tactical nukes in his latest speech. Gives me the impression that he wants to try to compartmentalise things a little bit to give room for a more graduated response rather than it just going straight to 'PUTIN USES NUCLEAR WEAPON. THE APOCALYPSE IS NIGH.'

08-10-2022 09:38AM

https://youtu.be/laIGavOMcw8

Some Ukrainians enjoyed this on Twitter:)

any know the rules to hammer sickle vodka ?

foil arms and hog

Gatling · 08-10-2022 09:46AM

A man can't have a lie in without someone blowing some **** up around here,🌉🌉

Wonder what changed Zelensky said he wouldn't target the bridge

Gatling · 08-10-2022 09:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716373#Comment_119716373

I think it was the train,it looks like the initial flash is further away rather than from under the bridge

Richard Hillman · 08-10-2022 09:50AM

So looking at the rail maps and the situation map. The only way Russia can get large machinery to Kherson from Russia, is a rail line that comes out of Donetsk. The front line is about 20km from it. It's not inconceivable that the railway has been already blown to bits.

The only other way is for Russia to do a bit of sail and rail to Mariupol or Berdyansk, then to Kherson. Plus whatever machinery is in Crimea.

If Ukraine go on a very large offensive in the South, pretty much dicks out stuff, now is the time.

Rawr · 08-10-2022 09:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716465#Comment_119716465

The Crimea bridge carries the only rail line that Russia could have safely used to supply Kherson, and is the most direct. The rail lines in the occupied southern Ukraine zig-zag between the cities there, and in many parts are probably within range of Ukrainian weapons, assuming the lines are even intact.

Crimea is essential to their southern logistics, and Crimea itself is very reliant currently on that link. Taking it out of action is a potentially massive logistical and morale blow to the Russians.

Gatling · 08-10-2022 09:55AM

All together,

https://twitter.com/AnnetteBab/status/1578667568306737152?s=20&t=Y6pzIjQUC8w7on2NE6vncQ

Dohnjoe · 08-10-2022 09:55AM

Looks like a purposeful hit on the bridge by the Ukrainians, amazing if they have pulled that off

As usual I expect Russia to retaliate by targeting civilians

Gatling · 08-10-2022 09:56AM

3bn dollars up in flames

Richard Hillman · 08-10-2022 09:58AM

Basically what this guy said

https://twitter.com/ColbyBadhwar/status/1578627369660608514?t=_n7A8wqlSu-g04ehWYPEfw&s=19

Basically what this guy says. They have lost rail transport

Rawr · 08-10-2022 09:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716420#Comment_119716420

Anyone wanting out of Crimea now will have to use the Ferry service which they are apparently reactivating. This is what they used before the bridge.

I however wonder about the condition of those ferries given Russia’s stellar reputation for maintenance and safety. Are those ferries sea-worthy? Or will they dangerously overload the ferries with ancient tanks and sink them in thier panicked rush? Will the new conscripts even reach the frontline, or be killed by their nation’s incompetence before they get a chance to be killed by its humerus.

faceman · 08-10-2022 10:01AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716521#Comment_119716521

We will actually get more warning than you think if Russia was to use any kind of nuclear weapon. The concept of nuclear weapons constantly being ready to fire is a myth. Aside from behind the scenes communication in decision making, there is some necessary prep and mobilisation time that would be picked up by NATO satellites.

HalloweenJack · 08-10-2022 10:11AM

That was good start to the day. Should be a big setback for the Russians and keep them.busy for the time being.

cnocbui · 08-10-2022 10:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119715239#Comment_119715239

When you refine a barrel of oil, you get more petrol from it than diesel, so diesel is a scarcer product, and it would normally be more costly, but the Greenie morons throughout Europe, especially our own John Gormley and every Taoiseach and finace minister since, decided that polluting the air and killing people was a good idea so far heavier excise penalties were put on petrol than diesel and on the taxes and charges applied to petrol vehicles. So throught Europe, and in particular here, most people bought diesels instead of petrol motivated cars.

So you have loads of petrol and far less diesel, while having far more diesels powered vehicles, making diesel scarce and petrol abundant, hence the recent swap in price disparity in favour of petrol, despite it still having a higher excise on it than diesel.

So it's improbable that petrol will face the same crunch as diesel. I'd imagine European refineries probably have for years had to ship all the surplus petrol to the US, where they aren't so thick when it comes to polution.

briany · 08-10-2022 10:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716594#Comment_119716594

That's what I was getting it when talking about NATO intelligence. There are a couple of points which still trouble me, however

Not every nuclear weapon is a large one. Some are small enough and standardised enough to be launched using conventional, non-specialised gear.
Does NATO know whether it knows where all of Russia's stockpiles are, and are confident to be able to keep track of all potential arms coming out of these locations?

If Putin were to use nuclear weapons, I imagine he'd want to give it the added psychological edge of it being a surprise, or at least as much of a surprise as it could be, given it's already being talked about as a possible course of action.

gandalf · 08-10-2022 10:21AM

I guess this means Ukraine will have to produce new stamps!

Richard Hillman · 08-10-2022 10:23AM

You are goosed if you are in Crimea now. As mentioned previously, they are already queueing for fuel. Food supply will be under threat now.

Even when Russia do fix the bridge. They will be now searching every car/truck going over it. Tailbacks for miles. People in Crimea trying to retreat to Russia.

rogber · 08-10-2022 10:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119716652#Comment_119716652

There is literally nobody here in category 2. Must try harder

gandalf · 08-10-2022 10:35AM

Crimea's position is untenable now for Russia. The main supply route is buggered, the only other rail route in is within all Ukrainian artillery assets and is likely already out of commission. The water supply to the peninsula will probably be cut off soon given the speed Ukraine are taking territory back.

Basically if your Russian and your in Crimea or the Southern part of Ukraine now you're buggered!