General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

With the amount of money spent , dont think the owner is expecting to go down, think Benitez might be a better fit , with all the added pressure.

and BTW I'm up for liverpool tonight

Other thing to note is if they valued 30% at 700m last year and now are potentially getting offers around 4-5B for a full sale then surely there will be some of them who are very very tempted to sell and cash out.

United would need to drop the Glazers now and hire a competent director.

Things won't "go right" with the current set up.

The Glazer protest hasn't totally died out though. There's protests before neary every home game but Sky don't show it.

There isn't naturally the same level as there was for the Liverpool game. It would be impossible to maintain that level every 2 weeks but it has definitely not died out. They will pick their moments throughout the season to cause the most disruption they can.

Sky will show fans leaving the stadium at half time but they won't show the protests before hand.

Sky have also been muting fan chants about the Glazers during the games. It's very noticeable for games that are on BT rather than Sky. You can hear the protests very clearly on BT.

Not sure why Sky are so against showing anything of the protests but they are.

Reports (Telegraph) that Hassenhutl is getting the push from Southampton soon....

Hard to know what to make of them, Southampton have veered from very good to very poor under him, very little in between.

Sky definitely lower the crowd volume in some games, and in certain times. It's very obvious in games at Elland Road for example where you can hear the volume change live for certain chants.

There was a Liverpool - Man City game a year or two ago that sounded terrible on TV - dead as a doorknob. Lots of twitter talk about the 'Anfield myth' etc. But every player made it a point to talk about the atmosphere and I had a few friends at it who said it was the best in a long time.

Hiring a competent director is a part of 'going right'. Loads needs to change, of course, my only point is that it's not a 10 year process. If all the right decisions and changes are made at almost any club (and certainly Utd), they can be in a position to win a league within 5 years. It takes up to about 3 to 4 years to gather a squad that can win a league. Any longer, and you've gone backwards through your first guys moving on/aging out.

(I don't think they necessarily need to be rid of the Glazers to do it either, the Glazers have a rake of titles in the bag already, and do still allow enough transfer funds to build - they just need the people running the football/transfer side to be better).

Why specifically? Like, the point revolves around the right transfer decisions being made from the start of that 5 year period - obviously it's a long shot, it's simply that it can be done if the right people are there, making the right decisions. 5 years is 10 transfer windows. You can obviously build a core of 14 decent players in that time, with just 3 or 4 real standouts required.

On the Liverpool point, almost every bit of the Rodgers team that challenged was gone when we challenged again. Only Jordan Henderson was a part of both... which is part of the point, you have to do it fast if you're going to do it. From the point at which you start making right decisions the clock is ticking, as team cycles pass by a lot faster than we sometimes recognise.

At any club, at whatever point they step up and go and win a league, it'll have overwhelmingly been the actions of the 5 years previous that made it happen. (Also, 5 years is a REALLY long time in football).

"Rake of titles"

I thought it was just 3 second rate cups ?

5 Premier Leagues, a Champions League, four EFL Cups, the Europa League, the FA Cup and the FIFA Club World Cup since the Glazers came in.

This is what everyone is competing with, funded by dodgy deals with fake made up companies to cheat the rules.

I'm well aware that signing on fees etc will be factored into this headline figure to make it sound larger, and the goal bonuses. But it's still a massive total number that nobody else is going to be able to get to, without also cheating or cooking the books.

Brilliant goalscorer Haaland is, but this is an obscene number. No player should be earning that amount, anywhere.

Basic £350k

Appearance fee £100k

Goal bonus £50k

Wearing Jersey in the correct manner £100k

Putting boots on the correct feet £50k

Not getting locked in the toilets £50k

Saying hello to the tea lady at least once a week £50k

Not hiding Peps scalp polish £50k

It all adds up tbf.