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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Putin is pathetic ... it is very clear we have a very very mentally ill man here who needs to be removed from office immediately and given the medical help he needs ... sadly there seem to be guys around him who are taking advantage of his illness .... it must be awful for intelligent Russians to see their leader degenerate into this state of mind and no one is able to remove him from office and give him the medical help he needs ...

    It is 100% clear Putin is not what he was ... but everyone in the regime is ignoring this ... to take over at the right moment to be the 'saviour' I suppose ... what we are seeing is the pathetic fall of a man who once was a stable statesman ... but why has Putin descended into this state of depression and mental illness? And is he self medicating on crystal meth and cocaine?? It is very dangerous to have a man who needs medical help left in charge ... and it is pathetic the others are using it to their supposed advantage ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭mikewest


    Somebody, I forget who, threw a question your way about that tweet a few hours ago. Way way back in the thread by now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The people posting from these accounts already do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    ‘Given the Medical help he needs’……yeah a head full of lead 😡😡



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    The only help needed with Putin is help to remove him from the living as soon as possible!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Field east


    So, if NATO can modify the rules then It is very possible for NATO to make it much easier to join NATO - even as an ‘honorary member’. But ONE RULE I suggest that it should definitely change is the one which says all members must agree who can join. NATO should learn from the mistake that the UN made whereby ALL seven members of the permanent council - which includes Ru - must agree on any proposal before it b4. The UN can act



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Field east


    But what about he nuking some parts of the rest of Ukr



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭rogber


    Yeah, because gas pumping into the sea and thousands of tonnes of equipment rotting in natural environments is something we should be totally indifferent to.


    Btw any update on your latest Twitter "scoop" about the 100,000 Belarusian troops about to enter the war? Didn't think so... Must be under house arrest or something...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,936 ✭✭✭threeball


    Turkey don't exactly tick all the boxes, Hungary either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Field east


    Is that the reconnances brigade marking the way forward for the main advance?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,741 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Would be interesting if they got to Kremmina. Retreat by land would be pretty much impossible if Ukraine get there first. Would also set up a new frontline on that river there. Lysychansk would be up for grabs again, giving them the high ground over Sieveirdonetsk.

    My guess / hope is that the heavy fighting last night was out of desperation. The Russians there maybe realised that they needed to bug out from Lyman but never got the direction to do it. Now they are probably scared and maybe even heedlessly firing at anything that approaches. They’ll eventually run out of ammo, where they’ll have the option of surrender or being shot in a break-out attempt.

    If the Russians weren’t as feckless as they clearly are, they might have withdrawn earlier, or failing that try an airlift to get as many guys out as possible. A counter attack to relieve Lyman is of course possible, but it doesn’t feel that they’re capable of that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Field east


    One of the main things I picked up from the speech was when he mentioned that there are precidentsre using nuclear bombs. He specifically mentioned the US dropping such bombs on Japan . I assume the insuation is that if he drops one he will not be the first country to do it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Aviation update:

    No major or unusual activities to report, and two items of interest.

    Looking at the overall top-down, one thing that is apparent is the large number of Strategic Airlift aircraft, from various countries, moving troops and equipment around or repositioning their assets. C-17 and C-130J ( newest varients)are all busy this morning. There's even a Moroccan C-130E smoking along over the Med. Now that's an old bird.

    The second thing is the aircraft highlighted in the bottom picture. It's a Boeing P-8 Submarine hunter. Took off from the Middle East earlier. Im watching to see where it will end up.

    Will it end up off our South West Coast?

    I'll keep you guys posted. I've one ear on Shannon Control on LiveAtc. If you draw an extended line from its current bearing, all the way out towards Ireland, the line intersects the area of ocean containing the Data cables. I'm not saying for definite that that's where the P8 is headed, but if I'm right, you heard it here 1st!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Exercise Joint Warrior 2022.

    Those of you tracking aircraft and naval movements will notice increased activity in the waters around northern Scotland over the next 2 weeks ( and another possible destination for the P8 I mentioned above). Over 3000 personnel, over 50 aircraft and warships from all over NATO will be active:

    "Joint Warrior is a UK-led war exercise that takes place in spring and autumn each year. The Royal Navy, Royal Air Force and British Army are joined by forces from 13 other nations, including Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Latvia, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Turkey, Japan, UAE and the US.

    Taking place over two weeks, Joint Warrior includes airborne assaults, amphibious landings, evacuations and live-fire exercises.

    The exercise runs through a range of scenarios, including crisis and conflict situations, that could be realistically encountered in operations, such as territory disputes, terrorist activity and piracy."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It seems various reports coming out of Lyman Ukrainian forces saying that they have never seen so many dead or nearly dead orcs,in most cases they aren't offering any medical assistance due to lack of first aid supplies, there seems to be issues with ammo supplies for the Ukrainans moving forward, they seem to be operating in 20 man teams rather in combined large forces



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭zv2


    Like Jordan Peterson says, the tyrant awakens the little Hitler in them.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭zv2


    Post edited by zv2 on

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,133 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Lyman not being surrendered without a fight.

    Ukrainian forces geolocated in the southern part of the town.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    Technically true yes.

    And of course, the main motivation for those two bombs was to avoid the enormous loss of life to American soldiers, had they decided on a land invasion of Japan. Which is similar rationale many have suggested Putin could use, if deciding to employ these weapons in Ukraine.

    Proponents of those bombings, suggest that it might have also saved Japanese lives too, because it brought the war to a quick end. But try telling this to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Try telling it to anyone who has to endure such horrors! It just won't wash.

    What America did to Japan with those bombs, was a horrific act of cruelty. A war crime of monumental proportions. And if Putin decides on the same path, it should be viewed in the same manner. These weapons should be in a museum, so future generations can learn from our mistakes as a species.

    They have no place on a battlefield in conventional warfare. They are a cruel indiscriminate weapon of terror.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Here’s the bit where he mentioned the nuclear bombing of Japan:

    “The United States is the only country in the world that has used nuclear weapons twice, destroying the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan. And they created a precedent.”

    The “and they created a precedent” bit sounds ominous. But then he goes on to say:

    “They had only one goal, as with the nuclear bombing of Japanese cities: to intimidate our country and the rest of the world.”

    So he doesn’t seems to be casting it as “they did it, so we can do it”. He’s actually admitting that the threat of nuclear weapons is a reprehensible, bullying tactic.

    So my point really is that there was nothing explicit in his nuclear rhetoric; he leaves that to his lackeys, which serves to create ambiguity as to whether it’s bluster or policy. And he did not take the opportunity of this speech to clarify that, meaning that the ambiguity is strategic.

    Of course, his rant was a mass of lies, hypocrisy and contradictions, so maybe there’s no definitive analysis. And maybe that’s the point.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Was it not reported that the Duma brought in new legislation with prison penalty for surrendering? 10 year I think the term is.

    Great way to treat your troops - die or face jail/ concentration camp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,741 ✭✭✭Rawr


    That’s assuming the POWs opt for repatriation. For some, especially those new conscripts who have been rumoured to look up *how to surrender*, they may want to stay away from Russia in its current state. Also a 10 year jail term in Russia lately has a knack of being commuted to front line service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    Putin really missed the boat didn’t he. He belongs in a different time. His hate for the West along with the platform he has is scary. Imo a lot of how this plays out relies on how India and China react over time. Currently they seem happy to sit on the fence, see who wins and then align themselves that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Ironically, it was the Russians declaring war on Japan which forced them to surrender rather than the bombs.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You're wildly assuming putin is a mental case. He'e not. You're wildly assuming "intelligent Russians" don't support him. You're wildly assuming the regime doesn't support him. You're wildly assuming he was ever a stable statesman. Was he "stable" when he invaded Georgia, Chechnya and Crimea and baccked Assad in Syria? Was he "stable" when he had his opposition gaoled, or murdered? And I think we can gloss over the daft stuff about crystal meth and coke. 😂

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    Russians definitely putting up a fight. Looks like the days of retreating are over.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The Russian declaration was another nail in the coffin for Japan, the atomic bombs were damn near the entire lid. They blinked after the first bomb fell, but were still at the "this surely couldn't be a single weapon, could it" stage. The second detonation cleared that up. IIRC at the time the US didn't have enough fissile material for a third one, or it would have taken time to get it together. The majority of the huge cost of the Manhattan project went on refining the material. Though funny enough it wasn't the most expensive weapon of the war, that would be the development of the B-29 Bomber which dropped the first two bombs.

    The Allies flattened German cities(which Comrade Stalin was 110% behind) and Germans kept on fighting, but it seems the psycholigical impact of one horror device outweighs tens of thousands of them, even if they achieve the same aims.

    Now the US could have dropped the bomb(s) on outlying islands of Japan and likely would have the same effect, plus they got to test out the new bomb's operational logistics and test out two competing designs for the bomb.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    They can either be shot in the front or in the back.

    Might as well go down swinging.



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