Best Electricity Plan for new EV Owners

I'm talking about a plug and play replacement for my Kerosene boiler.

Nope. The majority of Smart Tarrifs have higher day and peak rates while the evening rate is more or less the same as a 24hr tarrif.

They might try to blind you with 3 hours ev charging or a 'free day' but it's all smoke and mirrors.

Hopefully the CRU has woken up.

The smart meter ads that I've started seeing on TV are misleading, it's bad form suggesting people will save money by getting one. You know exactly how many units you're using when the bill comes in with a 24hr or day/night meter. If your bills are high you'll go around checking everything to make sure it's off, the information is there if you need it.

35.8/10.3 on their site (went up ~10% yesterday).

I asked them about the difference on their site, and they said the 13c price was coming.

On a different note, I rang Bord Gais also this morning, on hold for 30 mins, eventually got through to a contact centre rep. And she couldn't tell me what the EV night rate was. She was so uncertain to the pricing model - I got the impression they were getting new pricing literally as we spoke.

I'm still confused as to what the best EV price is on a Day/Night meter right now is

Same here, I owe a few pints to whoever first posted about that Energia plan being fixed rate. My bill should actually drop by a few quid compared to last year.

I don't do big mileage so just the first 200 quid electricity grant will cover me for this year's driving (prob 7-8k kms). I don't use gas so the three new grants will be quite helpful towards cancelling out the oil tank fill that I'm going to have get to heat the house.

The great smart meter lie and propaganda campaign continues:

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/0928/1326021-cru-tariffs-update/

Has anyone had problems getting their meeting updated on the ESB Networks system - after a the physical meter swap from smart to day/ night?

I had mine changed a week ago but when Energia check my MPRN its still showing up as a smart meter and so I'm left in limbo and can't switch (anywhere!). I contacted ESBN who tell me that its in progress and give it another couple of days, etc.

Changing from smart back to day night has taken almost a month, hopefully its finally sorted out before the increases next week. Knowing my luck, Energia will have stopped giving the fixed rate by then...

From SEAI on Linked In this morning: my emphasis in last line

930,000 smart meters have been installed in Irish homes but only 4% of these are actually using Smart Tariffs or Time of Use Tariffs, the other homes remain on their existing tariffs. They are not switching because there is poor value for money offered by these fancy new tariffs.

We did a quick check of online electricity prices for the big 4 suppliers in last August and looked at their price offerings on the 3 different meter types (see graph). Note these are for new customers looking to switch so they include discounts of up to 30% and cash bonuses which do not apply to longer term customers.

From the graph it can be seen that the Day & Night price plan consistently offered the best value for money for all 4 suppliers. This is why no one is switching….

The reason why Day & Night appears cheapest is: 

1)     Because the night rate price is about 35% lower than the equivalent night rate price period on the Smart Tariff despite the higher annual standing charge associated with a Day & Night meter. 

2)     These prices are generated according to guidance from CRU. At the moment a Day & Night price assumes 50% of annual consumption occurs at night and a Smart Tariff assumes 39% at night.

Why can’t we have the Day&Night night rate price transferred to the Smart Tariff and benefit from the lower standing charges too?

Note Oct prices will increase these values by 35-50%!! However, the same pattern still remains with Day&Night tariff remaining the cheapest for all 4 suppliers.  

Smart Meters are essential for Irish consumers to benefit from cheaper prices in the long run and to reduce our consumption at peak time….but we need better value before consumers will switch.

They have ( stopped the fixed ev plan)

Are you sure? It was never obvious on the website that it was a fixed price and you'd get various conflicting responses from their call centre staff so its hard to tell if it has been changed or not... at least until someone gets a bill.

One way to tell, that I found was to click "Switch Now" on that plan and enter your MPRN and if it shows "Fixed" in the top right corner it means it is still fixed. All the others show variable when you do that. I mentioned it here:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119535118/#Comment_119535118

I cant check it with my MPRN anymore as it tells me Im already signed up and not to be a twit! So, if someone else could try it out, that has a day/night meter, and let us know what it shows there.

EV fixed plan - I’m taking it as fixed and have it in writing, but small print may say otherwise for those who signed up early …

One to watch for those on the EV rate- my latest bill is showing the incorrect price for night rate at 10.5c instead of 7.9.

When I queried it they said the unit figure on the bill is pre 40% discount which is confusing.

They did apologize for the incorrect night rate tariff and are aware of this issue- “we are working to resolve it as quickly as possible “-

So it must be the case for others- keep an eye on the unit rate and discount - wait till they try add the fit into the mix …

What time does your meter say it is at the moment (9pm local time now)

That's correct then (Apart from the few mins) meter never changes is in GMT, so night rate atm 12 till 9am. After time change will be 11pm till 8am.