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  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A mock up of Putin talking to Palpatine in a monitor please 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Not sure I’d call it a white elephant yet and I’m not sure that the Germany and the EU are months away from not needing that cheap gas. Unless the EU abandons the green agenda we will need that cheap gas for decades yet. I don’t think LNG could fully replace that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,664 ✭✭✭✭josip


    If Ukraine are only now claiming to have taken Yampil, then Zarichne is definitely still contested. Although they might take heavy losses, it is still a possible escape route from the Lyman pocket.

    https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/30-september-ukrainian-military-liberated-yampil-in-donetsk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    The ceremony in Moscow is at 3pm. That’s 1pm here in Ireland. No idea what he will say in his speech but his battle is definitely with his own citizens this time and keeping them onside.

    Will be an interesting watch. What broadcaster would posters recommend for watching it? Sky news interpreters aren’t the best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    Regarding the Twitter thread, saving face isn't part of Russia's Nuclear doctrine, but, who's to say they will follow their own rules or not just change the doctrine to suit the narrative.

    Two dangerous points about the Russian miliary doctrine:-

    1. It is written and issued by Putin, and,

    2. The very last condition is like a blank cheque:-

    The provisions of the Military Doctrine may be refined with a change in the nature of military dangers and military threats, tasks in the field of ensuring defense and security, as well as the conditions for the development of the Russian Federation.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭rogber


    Deeply depressing. If only there were nuclear bombs that exclusively targeted fanatical, ideologically driven men the world would be 95 percent improved....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    Why would they invade Ukraine and ensure pariah status with ensuing economic ruin for generations?

    I wouldn't go looking for rational explanations inside any Russian actions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭rogber


    Another 20+ civilians fleeing occupied territory killed by the Russians overnight. Sickening.


    Very curious to see whether the grotesque Moscow event today passes off without protests or violence. If only someone could get a drone near there....but I imagine the sky are closed off for miles around



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    You're only slightly more likely to see protests there today as you would have in Berlin 1943



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,133 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


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    This is significant.

    Yampil was the final defensive position that prevented Ukraine from cutting the last supply route to Lyman (road coloured in a red line). They should now be in complete control of the road to Zarichne (road coloured in blue).

    The race is now on for Russia to withdraw from Lyman before that road is cut.

    Surely the Russians in command aren't so stupid that they are going to allow this to happen. Guess we will find out in the next 24-48 hours....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,292 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The same question has been asked and answered multiple times on the thread, both with reference to the specific reasons (they weren't in use, Cortez burning boats, salt the ground for any successor) and past behaviour such as...

    Why would they impound leased aircraft, thereby rendering the aircraft useless and worthless to everyone including themselves, and in the process crippling their own commercial airline industry?

    Did that make sense?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11



    Ukrainian military liberated Yampil in Donetsk region

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,641 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    The annexation changes sfa

    Ukraine will continue attacking these areas

    Russia will continue defending

    There wont be nukes dropped. The annexation is just Putin playing to his base - look at all this territory we've gained - strong russian empire. Outside of Russia annexation changes nothing.

    If reading the news makes you feel like things are bleak - take a step back and stop reading. Most of it is sensationalist garbage designed to elicit an emotional response. Making you fearful of WW3 or WMDs is the point because it gets better readership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Wes M.


    There's the feeling in the next few hours and days that everything is about to change, or perhaps we'll simply continue on watching this war grind away into next year. It would be interesting to map out Russia's future in the next few years - will it embrace its role as a terrorist state, sanctioning and sponsoring acts of sabotage abroad, spreading disorder and disinformation, or will it assume a new ideology and get its country back on some normal direction of travel. The pessimist in me thinks the former. Considering the current administration is so heavily involved in crimes against humanity, there's really no way I can see any kind of rehabilitation where the West would ever do business with them again. Russia will look east, but from a position of weakness that partners will be keen to exploit...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    Conscripts and professional military soldiers could refuse to go to Ukraine, but now after the annexation, when it is Russia by their law, they cannot. Ruskies tried Chechens, Wagners, Syrians, NK's, with no luck. Making annexed part of Ukraine into Russia was the only way to get soldiers to Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,516 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    @Wes M. They can’t be classed as a superpower anymore, that’s for sure.

    I really don’t get the Russian psyche at all. Once the iron curtain came down, they were on the path to being a modern and prosperous nation. But they wasn’t happy with that 🫤



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    that smacks of victim blaming Gatling. They were lining up at the same civilian crossing point that has been in use by both sides for months.

    Russia shelled it, knowing full well that it was only civilians. This was murder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭Field east


    Big leaverage removed from Putins in-house opposition



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,516 ✭✭✭zv2


    Re. the gas pipe - What will or will not harm Russia does not come into Putin's calculations. He would destroy Russian before giving in. He has truly painted himself into a corner now.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Wes M.


    Right now, somewhere near Red Square, Putin is being dressed in ceremonial armour and sword...

    Dmitry Medvedev: "Oh Vladimir, you look exquisite !"

    Putin: "Call me....Peter"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭rogber


    Don't post pictures of dead bodies without a content warning this isn't a movie.

    And blaming the Ukrainians for getting themselves murdered? Nice attitude



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    There is no evidence Russia blew up the pipeline, none. If evidence comes out then fair enough but let's stick to facts or else all we have is conjuncture. Right now the US are the only ones who threatened the pipelines would not exist if Russia invaded Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    Absolute scumbags. What time does the president speak today?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,375 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Because the Russians are heading into North Korea mode. They're completely withdrawing from the international community. They're resigned to being pariahs globally, their international supply chains are in tatters.

    They know that sanctions are rarely lifted once they are imposed.

    Also, they can get their army of useful idiots on the internet to try to spread suspicion against NATO

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Months later, and even after watching Russia screw up on multiple occasions, I'm still gobsmacked over the leased aircraft thing. Even if sanctions were lifted tomorrow that single stupid kneejerk tantrum act buggered their chances of international financing, insurance and leasing for at least a decade. Their only way out would be to pay back each lender and even then would anyone want to risk trusting them and the current government?

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭rogber


    I believe 1pm Irish time, 3 in Moscow. Apparently under the slogan "together forever" in relation to the annexed areas. Sounds like the title of a Westlife album. Grotesque doesn't even come close....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    3pm thank you.

    I'd go with Reuters coverage, it really is top notch.



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