Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

26-09-2022 07:55AM

The buffer in the id3 82 Kwh is around 9 Kwh.........

Mike2006 · 26-09-2022 09:17AM

I got the suitcases down from the attic yesterday to see what would and wouldn't fit in the boot of the model 3. I was very impressed.

My last car had a cavernous boot and we were spoiled for luggage room when going away.

Anyway, the boot of the Model 3 took : 2 x large (check-in) suitcases and 3 x small suitcases (carry-on). One of the 3 smaller cases fit very easily in the storage area under the 'floor' of the boot.

This saves me the hassle of needing to buy a set of roof bard for a roofbox which is great.

Mike

innrain · 26-09-2022 10:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119665477#Comment_119665477

What about the frunk?

Redfox25 · 26-09-2022 10:31AM

First big spin yesterday. From Dublin to Galway and back.

Car is lovely on the road and love the cruise control.

Autopilot was very jittery on the m4, especially any time we came near a turn off,it would start to steer for the middle point of the off ramp and the current lane then pull back to the current lane.

Admittedly the lines on the road need new paint in places but is this others experience of AP?

ELM327 · 26-09-2022 10:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119665791#Comment_119665791

No. The radarless tesla vision is worse than even AP1 that was in my old S

Mike2006 · 26-09-2022 11:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119665706#Comment_119665706

Of course - I didn't use this as I was keeping it for cables, first aid and puncture repair kit etc.... but yes, this would also home a decent sized rucksack if required.

wassie · 26-09-2022 11:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119665791#Comment_119665791

I do that trip at least once a week and find AP is great (2021 refresh SR+ model). The only problems I have on that trip that you mention is when passing through Althone as there are some poor line markings in the off-ramps. AP will improve the more you drive. Still running 2022.20.8 update at the moment.

ELM327 · 26-09-2022 11:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119665973#Comment_119665973

"AP will improve the more you drive". I feel that AP2 got worse during my time with Slughorn (my old model X).

AP3 now in Lady Grey (2022 m3 RWD) is still less good than AP1/Highway Autopilot was in Severus. Removing radar was a huge step back. I feel that AP3 in a loaner raven S I had in 2020 was better than it is now.

Boscoirl · 26-09-2022 12:38PM

Have used very little AP since i got my car, only ever used it to see what its like, i find traffic is too heavy to get the best out of it, have to overtake too often(if i had the auto lane change it would be better, but not paying for that)

I find the distance gap of the adaptive cruise control varies alot, sometimes it slows well before you catch the car ahead, and other times it closes right up(even with the same distance setting) its become a lottery as to when you have to pull out before you start slowing down, i feel you have to be in the overtaking lane an age to overtake something thats 3-4kmph slower than you.

ELM327 · 26-09-2022 12:58PM

Also the new follow gap being limited to 2 instead of 1 is way too far away

slave1 · 26-09-2022 01:30PM

Over the weekend I was driving at night for the first time since M3 March purchase. It's night and day between AP1 that I previously had for two years and current APX.

On country roads with no lines the car was imagining a centre line and pulling me in and out towards the ditch/centre line, slowing unbelievably at bends and at crest of hills just braking. AP1 was flawless in this regard.

ELM327 · 26-09-2022 02:33PM

Agree with all the above. New "tesla vision" is blind. Or at least has some serious cataracts

Fingleberries · 26-09-2022 04:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119666358#Comment_119666358

Also, in the EU 'Auto Lane Change' doesn't really exist like it does in the US.

I bought an ex demo model with FSD and auto lane change consist of you indicate you want to change lane, you nudge the steering wheel in the direction of the lane you want to move to, keep a loose hand on the wheel and if it doesn't complete the move in a set time frame the car has a canary and swerves back into the original lane.

(I'm only slightly exaggerating for comedic effect)

slave1 · 26-09-2022 06:20PM

with AP1 auto lane change was just indicate, and it was flawless (I only ever used it on motorways), that was 8 years ago technology (from Volvo)

Boscoirl · 26-09-2022 07:50PM

Descided to give AP a decent go this evening on the way home. 40km on the motorway. Drove at 110kmph so I wouldn’t need to overtake as much.

it worked very well. Only disengaged once as I probably too firm with the wheel to say I was still there. Can definitely see the benefit on a long boring journey.

on a side note. I am finding the phone charge pad hit and miss. It seems to only work sometimes.

I have a iPhone 12 mini so it’s smaller that most phones these days. I am wondering it’s too small. I tried holding up further on the pad to see if it would kick in but no joy. Might remove the case and try it again.

Thumper Long · 26-09-2022 08:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119668269#Comment_119668269

Have tried a few phones of different sizes from an 8 which is nearly identical size wise to the mini up to a pro max (all iPhones) with no issues, one thing to watch out for is optimised charging, if you are at 80% it may not charge you can turn it off in battery settings

Thumper Long · 26-09-2022 08:52PM

Well this popped up on the screen this morning and SWMBO the copilot nearly had an aneurism, have the car a little over a week and she doesn’t trust it yet

Tonight it shows 15% / 64KM going to charge to 100% overnight so will update how much energy it takes on board from the car and the Zappi

AndyBoBandy · 26-09-2022 09:22PM

Yeah they don't recommend letting any Model 3 battery sit at below 20% for long periods of time....

a few winters ago I parked up at about 17%, and as the night got colder (my charge isn't scheduled to start until 3am), I noticed the battery fell to 6%...

As they get colder, the amount of charge left in it, some of it gets 'locked' away as it's so cold.....

Gumbo · 26-09-2022 09:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119668471#Comment_119668471

Completely normal and appears on the S and X too. Once below 20% it just warns you that leaving it unplugged can reduce range as the battery goes cold.

As the battery heats up in theory you get the % back.

ADSLUSER · 26-09-2022 11:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119668269#Comment_119668269

Do you have a thick case on your phone? if so, try removing and see if that works

Thumper Long · 27-09-2022 08:09AM

So went from 15% / 64Km to 100% / 439Km overnight, the M3 says it took on 52kWh and the Zappi has 53.29kWh so not sure what that does for the battery capacity argument

TitianGerm · 27-09-2022 08:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119669539#Comment_119669539

The difference might be losses between the charger and the car?

Boscoirl · 27-09-2022 08:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119669073#Comment_119669073

It’s a Apple MagSafe case. So not thick. Will try without the case for a bit when I get the car back, the wife has seconded it. Might never get to drive it again.

Bovakinn · 27-09-2022 08:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119668269#Comment_119668269

I've read online that the position of the wireless charger on the iPhone 12 lines up better when you pop the phone in upside down. Might be worth checking out.

slave1 · 27-09-2022 08:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119669539#Comment_119669539

As TitianGerm says there will be losses from what the Zappi puts out and what the Tesla puts in, thankfully the Tesla is very efficient in terms of losses. There is also roundings, Tesla round everything so the 52kWh could be either 51.5kWh or 52.4kWh which would (mathematically) explain a bit

shanec1928 · 27-09-2022 09:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119669632#Comment_119669632

its the case, my tech21 case on my pro max has the same issue and its not a bulky case by any means

Thumper Long · 27-09-2022 09:10AM

Thanks guys I understand there is rounding and losses to be accounted for, I was more referring to the usable capacity, not sure what figure could be inferred from those figures?

Mike2006 · 27-09-2022 09:40AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119669726#Comment_119669726

If you account for rounding and say that 52kWhrs is spot on then your battery capacity is (52/85%)*100%= 61.2kWhr battery size

If you round up from 51.5kWhrs then is it (51.5/85%)*100%= 60.6kWhr battery size

Looks very healthy either way...

ELM327 · 27-09-2022 09:52AM

You likely have 3-5% losses to account for though

innrain · 27-09-2022 10:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119669726#Comment_119669726

The rounding on energy charged gives you an error of +/- 1kWh and the rounding on %SoC gives you +/- 1% ~ 1kWh. Overall +/- 2kWh

Going back to the figures 52/kWh /.85 = 61kWh +/- 2kWh => 59-63 kWh. You need more resolution to reduce this uncertainty. The figure from Zappi can only confirm that is in range so can't really help. Does Tesla state somewhere in the contract the battery capacity? I can't remember seeing that value when I got mine.

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