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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    There appears to have been a withdrawal on the front lines by the Russians since yesterday in this area:


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    This tweet is claiming that that has since expanded even more:



    I would imagine the main goal here is to cut off Lyman and force the remaining separatist forces to withdraw or be captured. They can also take large swathes of lowly populated Western Luhansk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,184 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "The total losses of the Rashists according to the General Staff for the week (September 19-September 25).


    ▪️personnel — minus 2220.

    ▪️aircraft — minus 8.

    ▪️helicopters — minus 3.

    ▪️tanks — minus 65.

    ▪️OTR UAV — minus 48.

    ▪️ACM (armored combat vehicles) — minus 114.

    ▪️Air defense — minus 3.

    ▪️MLRS — minus 16.

    ▪️art systems — minus 59.

    ▪️automotive equipment and tanks with fuel and lubricants — minus 123;

    ▪️special equipment (radar) — minus 8.

    And this is not counting the wounded and captured katsaps + trophy equipment. "


    That is quite a rate of attrition. Long may it continue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,184 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,510 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    But the Russians are the equivalent of a nutcase with a grenade in their hand threatening to pull the pin.

    Also, the regime is threatening to use nuclear weapons in pursuit of their aim of colonising a neighbouring country. Nobody has ever threatened Russia with invasion. They're effectively saying "Let us wipe out Ukraine or we will nuke everyone".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    But would you call someone's bluff, if you thought they were a nutcase holding a live grenade in front of you?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Those orange dots indicate fires that were captured by NASA's satellite 12-24 hours ago. During summer these can often by wildfires but now they are most definitely strikes by the Ukrainian army on Russian positions.


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    Searching Twitter for that city name it appears to have been a strike on either a Wagner base or an ammunition depot.



    Either way, given how far that is from behind the front-line it was almost certainly the work of HIMARs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,858 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    How will all these 300k troops enter the battlefield, can they be wiped out on route, or is that not in the spirit of war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    This happens, there's no point at all in having a threat if you're not willing to implement it. It's how major conflicts start, people make mistakes, there are red lines. The alternative is equal chaos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭paul71


    All right I will compromise, I won't bother with the latest re-incarnation to appear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    What 'spirit of war'? I would think the Ukrainians maybe planning a very fiery welcome for new conscripts arriving - to get the message back that really this ain't a great idea and 10 years in jail might be preferable. Reported today that new law also passed of 10 years for surrendering. You'd have to see the actual wording, but if it applies to soldiers surrendering against the odds in battle, it'd be completely daft. Who would serve under those conditions of obligatory death/ serious injury?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Cool Fool


    Is Sweden sending the Archer artillery system to UAF?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭paul71


    No, but they have been considering it officially since 1st September.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,653 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    I've been hoping and waiting for a potential breakthrough since the start of the weekend. Would love to see another defensive line collapse and Lyman encircled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Well I suspect 50% of them will die of alcohol poisoning before they even make it Ukraine judging by the videos posted since the call up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Tileman


    That’s because the cost of fertiliser has quadrupled in price in the last year. That’s why the value has gone so high. Russia and bell aria were two very significant suppliers of nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    If these new recruits could meet a really hot welcome wonder what the chances are of a fair degree of panic that might make the rest think twice about what is happening and revolt I know that is a long shot but I do think the army and people have to turn on Putin in big numbers to maybe bring him down .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    May as well reply since comments that agree with your own past thoughts on this issue are nice to see (joke).

    ...IMO they really missed the boat after killings of civilians + various war crimes committed around Kyiv by the Russian occupying forces got exposed when they were forced to retreat. All EU countries were downsizing the Russian embassies and expelling the "diplomats" in giant bactches of 10s and 20s in response, I think we booted 2 or something! The embassy should have been cut right down to the top man and and a few lackeys then. As you say a similar representation to what Ireland has in Moscow.

    To do anything now they now have to do it on their own (since other EU countries have already acted when we did not out of fear or self interest). Lets face it, that's not the kind of thing Ireland ever does and Irish people would probably blame them if they did it now and it attracted some specific attention from Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I wonder if the Russians are going to try for Kyiv again with their extra manpower.

    As much as a mess the 40km convoy was, it did mean that the Ukrainians were tied up with a potential assault on the city. And it's not as if the Russians give a crap about high personnel losses.

    One of the biggest problems I see for the Russians is that they are clearly low on transport vehicles. We keep on seeing videos of ancient Z emblazoned buses being blown up.

    Maybe they have notions of the new recruitsbmarching across Ukraine on foot?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Tbh at this stage I believe the Russian ambassador and all the staff in the embassy should be expelled. The embassy should be seized and the whole compound be repurposed to house Ukrainian refugees.

    The government excuse is they can't do that because they want to keep the line of communications open but tbh the EU will be negotiating on our behalf with them anyway. They are not needed or wanted here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    Seems like Dagestan is saying a big fat no to mobilisation, lots of protests and fighting with local police, search #dagestan on Twitter



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Think there might be a chance that with the numbers Putin could muster he may well be able to stretch the Ukraine forces especially as he has little concern for losses he would just order more poor sods in .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    They probably are realising that whilst complete villages of men are being mobilised there that a fraction are being called up in Moscow and St. Petersburg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,160 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @Richard Hillman

    I wonder if the Russians are going to try for Kyiv again with their extra manpower.

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    If Russia couldn't get to Kyiv in February, how would anyone think that they could get to Kyiv now? All these extra men would require provisions, ammo, weaponry, logistical support, and decent commanders coordinating their moves on the battlefield. Otherwise they're just walking toward slaughter. Given that more and more NATO weaponry has flooded into Ukraine in the months since the big invasion happened, it seems logical to say that Kyiv is in a much better position to defend itself than it was in February.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    We're talking about a nation that has completely lost the plot here. I did say "Try" 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,122 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/24/world/europe/ukraine-south-kherson-russia.html

    One Ukrainian soldier, speaking anonymously because he was not authorized to publicly discuss casualties, said that during a recent assault, “we lost 50 guys in two hours.” In another place, said the soldier, who works closely with different frontline units, “hundreds” of Ukrainian troops were killed or wounded while trying to take a single village, which is still in Russian hands.

    Whoever's commanding the Ukrainian forces in this part of the front should be sacked.

    There are dozens of Russian videos like the above showing Ukrainian forces advancing in completely open ground and taking heavy losses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,160 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I think Putin has some awareness of the battlefield situation by now, at least a mite more than he had in February. The analysis I've seen is that Russia will try to use the extra men to shore up the regions that they're already holding, and wear Ukraine down, or rather wait until NATO support wanes (if it wanes) and then just try to swamp the country with numbers and a callous disregard for lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    From a Russian legal point of view they couldn't.

    Russian law dictates that conscripts cannot be sent to fight outside Russia. Apparently one of the goals of the referenda was to make it so that it would be legal to send all of the conscripts being mobilised to the front lines without breaking that law. Since Kyiv (and Kharkiv) will still be considered part of Ukraine, conscripts wouldn't be allowed to be sent there.

    Now obviously they could always just create a new law if they wanted but for now it doesn't look likely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    I think Ukraine can call up more than 2 million.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Supposed we haven't had the daily pro Russian update in a few days .

    Whoever's commanding the Ukrainian forces in this part of the front should be sacked

    There's always going to loses and casualties can't sack commanders every time a soldier gets killed.

    Its not done Russia any good now had it



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