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Galway traffic

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  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah I have that one.

    In that area specifically, I'd love to know whats down towards Ballyloughane beach. I have identified 2, but I'm not sure if there's more. Bizarrely they are placed onto the bike lane/footpath so discourage use of the bike lane a la South Park



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Ah yeah time poor, only private car drivers are time poor. Feck the time rich pensioners who have to step off the road for shirly to get the essential chips for the evening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,591 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yeah but private car drivers include the vast majority of people, nay households, at some point.

    Parking on DYLs isn't ideal, but you are allowed to drop off for 20 minutes or whatever and as per Da Cor's examples above, folk do generally try not to obstruct passing traffic in the process of parking up for a short while.

    The reason all this hand-wringing won't work is that the vast majority of people accept the pragmatism of the behaviour I'm talking about. We all need to do it at some time or other, why go out of your way to upset people when its only a minor thing?

    I'm not trolling anyone, I'm saying that everyday business in Galway, like other towns and cities, would cease to function if there wasn't a bit of give and take, when it comes to moving people and goods around locally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,040 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Interesting to note that your passion for rigid application of the letter of the law in planning matters doesn't extend to the life-or-death domain of traffic matters, where you make veiled threats to 'snitches' and give succour to those why try to evade traffic cameras with non-standard reg plates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,591 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yeah, you're correct.

    I'm allowed to feel one way about one topic and a different way about a different topic though, as odd as that may seem to you.

    But I owe you no justification for that, so I think I'll ignore the call to prayer for the service of Andrew brand self-righteousness for today.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    From the City Tribune

    "in addition, a significant proportion of the Circle K filling station on College Road is required to facilitate two-way bus and car lanes – so significant that it may well leave the business unviable.

    Several gardens, carparking spaces at Gleann Nóinín (adjacent to the filling station) and parking spaces at Bayview Guesthouse at Moneenageisha junction all form part of the area that is required.

    Senior Engineer at Galway City Council, Uinsinn Finn, told the Galway City Tribune that discussions were ongoing with the 31 landowners involved, and had been for some time as a non-statutory public consultation was carried out in 2021.

    “There are a number of ‘hot zones’ in the CPO, particularly the properties at the junction with Headford Road, a chunk of the Huntsman [lawns], the Circle K and any businesses and homes losing green space"

    The council informed the 31 property/business owners they were taking the land/property by CPO, no discussion was entered into, no doubt the the usual suspects here will defend the CPO decision as the bus corridor is essential infrastructure just like the ring road😉



  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The council informed the 31 property/business owners they were taking the land/property by CPO, no discussion was entered into

    Do you realise the text you pasted contradicts you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    You're definitely taking the proverbial here right? The problem isn't that the cars in those photos are parked on double yellows, it's that they're parked on the footpath.

    And most people might own a private car at some stage but not nearly as many as use footpaths. You probably used several today yourself



  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The #Sundays4Safety crowd focused on the kissing gates this week and.....well see for yourself the problems they cause




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    The "discussion" involved the CC telling the stakeholders they would be taking their property by CPO, there was no alternatives offered or talked about.So hardly a discussion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,040 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    There is a significant degree of hypocrisy in extolling the importance of rule of law, yet selecting which laws you expect people to comply with. You’ve no business hammering others for not complying with the law when you advocate for exactly the same approach yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Other drivers should not have clear visibility or pedestrians should not be able to use paths safely because you need to do something so minor others shouldn’t get upset? To be honest you sound awful selfish and self important.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    A non-standard reg wouldn't be high on my priority list either but it's incorrect to say it "couldn't possibly have any bearing on road safety or promoting walking and cycling".

    Defeating Automatic Number Plate Recognition, and therefore being able to get away with breaking the speed limit, is often one of the main motivations in getting non-standard plates. There is a reason that the format is legally specified. With speeding being a contributory factor in so many road traffic injuries and deaths this is definitely a road safety issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    @Larbre34 "Parking on DYLs isn't ideal, but you are allowed to drop off for 20 minutes"

    This is a huge part of the problem, people making up their own laws that bear no relation to what is actually on the statute books.

    There is no legal provision for private cars to park on double yellow lines at all, never mind for 20 minutes. Dropping off means stopping only for the length of time it takes for a passenger to physically get into or out of a car. It does not mean parking and switching on your hazard lights while you wait for Johnny to come out of school or for Mary to go into the shop to get you both flat whites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    @Larbre34 "folk do generally try not to obstruct passing traffic in the process of parking up for a short while."

    This is also a big part of the problem. The attitude that because I'm not blocking the traffic coming behind me I'm not causing a problem. There are two popular establishments selling coffee in Salthill that are adjacent to pedestrian crossings. There are double yellow lines there to protect those pedestrian crossings and reinforce the law that you are not allowed to park within 15 metres before/5 metres after a crossing. Everyday those double yellow lines are ignored by drivers who seem to think that, because they are not blocking the car traffic, they are doing no harm. There is invariably free legal parking close by but they choose not to use it because they would have to walk a few seconds further. Then the view of the crossing is blocked, leading to danger to the people on foot trying to cross. I saw a frightening incident there recently where a lady in a white Tesla decided to keep going well after the lights turned red as a family stepped out from between the illegally parked cars. And that's before you get to the absolute sociopaths who, if the double yellow lines are already occupied, will actually park on the pedestrian crossing itself while the go in to get their coffee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,649 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Fairly sure it's just the 2 you've noted down at Ballyloughane. There are 4, unless I missed some, in O'Sullivan park Mervue. Another from Wellpark Grove onto the Dublin Rd. One from Castlelawn Heights onto the Dyke Rd. Just a couple that spring to mind incase you've missed them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    There are actually two from Castlelawn Heights onto the Dyke Road, about 50m apart. They lead onto two parallel roads in the estate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Important. The CPO process for the BusConnects is to facilitate car traffic flow and access, not cycle paths etc. We could have BusConnects without CPO of property but car access would then have to be strictly limited along key corridors as a result. Would prefer the later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    I hate those ones, they are really small; cannot get a bike through those gates at all without lifting them. No hope at all with two kids strapped into the bike seats. Further down the road on the Dyke Road - there is great pedestrian access into Dun na Coirbe beside the old Terryland Water works. No consistency.



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  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Something I put together to highlight the amount of barriers there are in Galway to accessibility


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Great map.

    Some additions to the Rahoon /Shantalla area

    Millars Lane has metal gate chicanes on the entrance to the lane at Rahoon Road and WDR entrance - but they are to be removed in the NEW development.

    There is a metal chicane fence into Cruachan Park (opposite Rockfield Park in Rahoon)

    Red Lane at Davis Road in Shantalla has a concrete wall chicane; something similar as well at Rivendell / Highfield Park onto Taylors Hill.



  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just to add, the map is fully interactive. you can click on any point and see an image of the issue in question as well as see a Google Streetview link if you want to see more detail



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Millars Lane metal gate chicanes on the entrance to the lane at Rahoon Road

    and at the WDR

    https://goo.gl/maps/gHnY2x752NPbc2cG9

    LARGE CONCRETE BLOCK on the opposite side

    There is a metal chicane fence into Cruachan Park (opposite Rockfield Park in Rahoon) --> https://goo.gl/maps/cmJmDCvwMSiCpkLc9

    Red Lane at Davis Road in Shantalla has a concrete wall chicane; something similar as well at Rivendell / Highfield Park onto Taylors Hill. --> https://goo.gl/maps/sXDebhrk6oGJ8Bfc8

    actually the worst spot for people on foot or bike in Rahoon is probably the Letteragh Road/Circular Road junction. Huge construction Developments on Letteragh Road and there are NO foopaths at this busy junction. --> https://goo.gl/maps/4NyJg3mBLp3e44EF7



  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks, I'll get these added

    All added except for Letteragh road. There's a lot of bits there I need to include so it will have to wait til later this evening

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  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Another planning permission, granted by GCC, gets overturned by ABP as its location would result in “dependency on unsustainable commuter-driven trip generation by private car” and therefore was “contrary to the proper planning and sustainable development of the area”.

    Announced on the same day, a Burkeway Homes development up on Letteragh Road will have the same issues. I fully expect it to be appealed to ABP and also be overturned




  • Posts: 680 [Deleted User]


    Re the accessibility map, well done. A few more adds:

    Stile at Rusheen Woods to Barna Rd, I think this might be going soon.

    Galway

    Sandy Road, no footpath on ESB side from rdabout

    Dropped pin

    A real peeve of mine, just abysmal planning, B&Q footpath narrows, stops at delivery Road, dangerous

    Dropped pin

    Bowling Green needs better pedestrian/traffic management, neither one thing or another atm.

    Lenaboy Park, entrance from Salthill, the gates are attractive but foot traffic needs to be considered

    Dropped pin

    Sherwood Avenue, just on footpath and its very narrow.

    Rosshill area one footpath


    Old Dublin Rd

    Liosbaun Industrial, a mess overall, one particular spot with weird metal barrier on footpath

    Dropped pin

    New footpath at Lidl Knocknacarra so thats one improvement that can be scratched from map



  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wow, a fountain of info, thank you. Can you double check your location pins though. Some are in different location to your descriptions

    Is this the Rusheen woods one?

    Is this the B&Q one?


    Sandy Road - Added

    Lenaboy Park - added

    Rosshill - added

    Sherwood Avenue - added

    old Dublin Road - Added

    Bowling Green - added

    Liosbaun - I'll come back to that one, as you say, its a frikkin mess. A lot of work there

    Where's the Lidl Knocknacarra one that I can remove? Never mind found it. Does the path go all the way around the Lidl?



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  • Posts: 680 [Deleted User]


    B&Q is right, you literally have to peer around a wall to see if any traffic is coming from the service Road to rear of the store.

    Rusheen Woods, this is the housing estate, not the woodland, a really awkward stile there, bus stop to South.

    3 Rusheen Woods


    Lidl development has new footpath along the South of Bothar Stiofain as far north as the first junction. Scrub area as was is shown on street view

    Bóthar Stiofáin




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