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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Yeah, it might actually take the Ukrainians about 3.7 extra days to kill them properly, this time, at their average rate of pest removal.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Say so,atleast the missile carriers and submarines,might give Ukraine a prewarning as well and also some juicy targets if within range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    There is also the photo sleuthing revealing a noted cancer specialist apparently being close by at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    It's amazing the long term effects that Fetal Alcohol Syndrome can have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    ""Good and a little funny news. Regarding the arrest of teenagers who sang the Anthem of Ukraine.

    We have confirmation from our insiders and members of the resistance. No arrest eventually occurred. The week of search activities did not bring the desired result to the occupiers. According to denunciations, several lovers of alcohol consumption were arrested, but they turned out to be the wrong ones. In order to report and "calm public opinion", police collaborators did not invent too much and shot a video about the "arrest", as "offenders" they attracted their own children and their friends. That is why in the video some of the faces are blurred – because that is the children of the occupiers in the police.

    And unknown patriots remained unknown. At least for the occupying power.

    Therefore, exhale. What can you say here? MrAzota is a good try, but nit.

    We continue to work.

    Mariupol was, is and will remain the city where the Ukrainian Sun becomes the first over Azov," Petro Andryushchenko."

    Lol.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,843 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭paul71


    Good spot, he does have the classic facial features.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    B0D71097-5CCD-4F07-B4C5-C7819946D417.jpeg

    I don’t think Stalin would have agreed with these prisoner exchanges.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    1 person killed, 2 wounded as result of landmine explosion in Hrakove village of Kharkiv region during electricity repairment works

    booby traps left behind, the gift that keeps giving

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Wes M.


    The Guardian reported earlier that Finish border guards are seeing an uptick on traffic coming from Russia, and I'm reminded of what Putin said early on in the year about scum and sabateurs (or words to that effect) leaving the country. I know experts from across the board are predicting the war to go on for a long while yet, but I can't help but think we're reaching some kind of end game - either a change of leadership, or some kind of military intensification that will settle it. It's as if something has to give. It's hard not to be glued to the reporting right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭paul71


    I don't think he was executed, I believe he died in a fight with other Russian POWs. Although that could have been a story invented by the Germans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭LastFridayNight


    My take on Putin's mobilization speech yesterday is that he actually want's the opposite of what he's saying. My take is that he now realizes the strategical blunder he's made. And actually he now thinks his best course of action is to de-esclalate in his own idea of a 'controlled' manner. He is likely seeing his best possible way out is to annex parts of eastern Ukrainian to Russia (it makes it militarily easier for him to be successful there under that scenario). Sure Ukraine will fight for them back, but if Russia can defend (likely yes) and the West get's tired of supporting Ukraine (certainly possible), then he can live with that outcome and call it a success. Of course, appearing to escalate with mobilizations and threats of nuclear retaliation still serves his public narrative.

    Initially he wanted all of Ukraine under his puppet leadership, make it a buffer zone between Russia and the West. Then it was just the Donbas as it's own autonomous region as the buffer. Now, he can't even get that- so next best thing is make part of the Donbas into Russia so he can defend it easier and call it a day for now.

    To a certain degree, it's then less about if Ukraine accepts that outcome in the long term (right now they won't of course), and more about if the West is willing to accept it and withdraw support for Ukraine (which they could do gradually and in many underhand ways that would not be immediately obvious).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Yep. He's hoping to play out a stalemate. Hold what he has long enough that the world loses interest and the annexations become the accepted norm.


    But it doesn't solve the energy issue. European countries are saying it's only over when Ukraine says so. And even last week Hungary is finally starting to be punished. He's crossed the Rubicon/Oskil/Severodonets/dnieper and there's no going back to time when the Crimea annexation was simply accepted.


    Ukraine need to pushed harder now though IMO (if they can) before the sham referendums, the winter and before more untrained meat is sent into the grinder from Russia. Imagine reservists coming in as the frontline is coming back towards them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭zv2


    'Antichrist' is a generic term. They have always been with us, unfortunately.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Ukrainians have just issued a blanket air attack warning for the whole country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭20silkcut


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Ukraine now will look to launch big counter offensives in Zaporozhzhia oblast in the coming weeks, as the longer they wait the harder it gets with Russian mobilised reserves expected to make it to the front in about 4-6 weeks from now.

    Expect a big push south toward Melitopol to split the Russian occupied territory in 2. They have already been launching smaller scale attempts from Orekhov but made no progress. Now they may repeat but with large numerical superiority



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I think Russia will be defeated by financiers sooner than by the Ukrainian military. This is how the USSR, ended - on it's knees with an extended empty bowl; please sir, can I have $120 billion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    'Russian military leadership is down the toilet' says Mark Hertling.

    Russia's mafia state is unravelling and Putin's decision-making is making it worse by the day.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,167 ✭✭✭✭briany


    That's a last ditch thing to try and save face with his own public and hold on to power, but what would eat away at him is that he knows that we know that he'd have fallen way short of his original objectives, so it don't believe it's a result he could sit on. He's been public enough with his ambitions of Novorusia at this stage, and he probably knows that if that project is not completed in his premiership, it won't happen at all. So, he's going to try to push on. He won't stop prosecuting this war until he cannot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    In the short term this will have absolutely no effect. Out of the 300k at most 100k Will ever see the frontlines. What Putin is doing here is a necessity to replace injured or dead soldiers.

    Voluntary conscripts, prisoner mobilisation and forced conscription in the occupied areas has obviously been bled dry. So this is the next step.


    The real battle now is getting Europe and it's economy through the winter. If we manage that Russia is fucked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,586 ✭✭✭rogber


    Yes, the West is basically the key factor here. If they supply enough weapons Ukraine can keep fighting to try and regain all territory. If the West gets weary of the whole thing, for whatever reason, they can just reduce support and force Ukraine to compromise. Not just military support, but the incredible economic support that will be required to rebuild the country afterwards. At the moment support still seems strong, we'll see what winter brings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Ukrainian aviation conducted 41 air strikes against Russian military and equipment, including 15 air defense units positions, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

    At Pivdenny Buh direction Russian army shelled over 25 settlements across frontline, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

    its a hell of a fight for Kherson

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    If the EU loses will the USA and the UK will not so no weapons will not stop flowing. And the EU will then take a massive credibility hit. Will be seen as tacit support for Nuclear weapons as a viable threat in border disputes. The USA could than say FU and withdraw from NATO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,565 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Using their own money against them, what a move!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Looking at FR 24, a US Rivet Joint operating out of Mildenhall has been doing a run from Poland to Lithuania (via Suwalki gap) then east to the Baltic. Effectively emphasising that Kaliningrad is surrounded and under close watch. I wonder have Kaliningrad's air defences been moved like those of Petersburg.

    Jack Charlton tactics: "Put 'em under pressure"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,586 ✭✭✭rogber


    Sounds good. And thanks for proving my point: the West is the key player here



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    I'm not well versed in these matters at all, but I think a nightmare scenario may be looming --

    Ukraine continues to retake territory and, sham referendums aside, Russia is left defending an ever decreasing area of Ukraine but refuse to agree to a ceasefire and continue to fire missiles into Ukraine.

    This is why the retaking of Crimea may be necessary, to further humiliate Putin, in an effort to precipitate real change in Russia.

    Most Russian objections to the course of the war are based on potential military loss of face, they are not remotely concerned about the plight of their more civilised and more intelligent neighbours. This is why humiliation is an absolute necessity, it's the only thing they understand - "we, as a nation, seem to have no choice but to accept total defeat, therefore we are beaten".



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