Queen Elizabeth II dies

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 09:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119640287#Comment_119640287

I'm not sure how you can see massive queues for recent events and reconcile that with a falling interest in the monarchy.

cap.in.hand. · 20-09-2022 09:29AM

Prince William put on a great display of his abilities to connect with the British public in the last while so he should seamlessly carry on the royal duties with the British people's blessings

screamer · 20-09-2022 09:34AM

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You’ve made my point for me there. The queen was the monarchy and they turned out for her. If Charles reign is short and passes to William, they have a chance of surviving, as he and his wife seem to be popular enough. If Charles sits there for the next 20 years, I really can’t see the establishment surviving.

Hermy · 20-09-2022 09:37AM

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Queen Elizabeth II was not the longest ruling had of state.

The longest verifiable reign was that of Louis XIV (the Sun King) who ruled for 72 years and 110 days - 615 days longer than Queen Elizabeth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest-reigning_monarchs

20-09-2022 09:44AM

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I should have made it a bit clearer. The longest serving head of state among the current crop of heads of state.

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 09:48AM

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They were singing god save the "King"

No doubt Charlie isn't as popular but I'm not sure your seeing how popular monarchy is in UK. They are obsessed with it. It's ingrained across every aspect of UK life.

VinLieger · 20-09-2022 09:51AM

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Theres rumours of him wanting to let Andrew return from disgrace, if he tries to proceded with that I cant seem him being popular in any way.

Sardonicat · 20-09-2022 09:58AM

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There are also rumours of him wanting the law changed so he doesn't have to have Andrew as a Counsellor of State by restricting the position to "working" Royals only.

All these are are rumours. Time will tell.

Yurt2 · 20-09-2022 10:00AM

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You're aware that the entire Royal Bank of Scotland group went bang in 2008 and that Ulster was owned by RBS right? A British domiciled bank that shat itself because of a bungled takeover of ABN Amro. That's what that bailout was about fyi. The whole group was rotten. Know the history before going bluffing. People know, and they won't be bullsh*tted.

You're revisionism isn't working. You posted that Ireland only paid back the loan last year as if we were laggards. We had the ability and firepower to pay it off fully probably from 2014 only for the Dep of Finance was marched into the fixed term by Osborne because of populist Middle Englanders (sound familiar?).

I wouldn't get so smug if I were you. Britain is the new Japan: no growth (0 percent next year) high debt, low productivity. The UK economy is not in good health, hasn't been for 15 years, and there's no magic wand to fix it. If you want to sober-up, compare the respective projected growth rates between Ireland and the UK.

European finance ministers will remember sentiments like yours when it goes sour. It pays to have friends, and the UK, never having a particularly good reputation in the first instance in EU capitals, has spent the last decade trying to p*ss down the leg of anyone in its vicinity.

Keep on tripping the light fantastic fam, but remember it pays to have friends.

Hermy · 20-09-2022 10:04AM

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Yes, I thought you might be referring to the current crop all right but thought I'd add the clarification for what it's worth.

Interestingly, the longest reigning living monarch is now Hassanal Bolkiah, the Sultan of Brunei, who's only been on the thrown for a mere 54 years.

triddles · 20-09-2022 10:08AM

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Excellent post , will completly and utterly go over that posters head. He has a blind hatred for ireland and a real GRÁ for the Royal family.

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 10:13AM

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Can't see it. They've taken a hard line with Harry and he's popular.

Sudden Valley · 20-09-2022 10:23AM

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Its like religion, it has over a thousand years of brainwashing behind it. It's also a powerful force in keeping the UK together. Charles may not be popular but he is also not unpopular and there are so many heirs now that if an unpopular king/Queen comes along they will just be forced to abdicate.

20-09-2022 10:29AM

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so Ulsterbank didn't need bailing out? to say otherwise is a complete fallacy. There was a lot more wrong with RBS than just Ulsterbank and ABN Amro, but that does not detract from the simple fact that greed, corruption and incompetence meant that Ulsterbank had to be bailed out to the tune of billions. Just as RSA had to bail out their Irish subsidiary a few years later.

I didn't say Ireland only paid off the loan last year, I simply said it was fixed term as that was agreed. The UK basically provided the Irish government with a line of credit to provide liquidity. They didn't have to take it, but could fall back on it if they need to. Because of this and the low rates Ireland were able to get, the UK insisted on being the most preferred lender, so the Irish government couldn't use this money to pay off other loans. If they had, then the UK would have been exposing themselves to too mush risk if Ireland had defaulted (which was a real possibility and something which a lot of people in Ireland were calling for).

As Ireland started clearing loans and the risk decreased, the British government agreed to remove the most preferred lender clause so that the Denmark and Sweden (Two othr countries bailing out banks thanks to greed corruption and incompetance in Ireland) could be paid off early.

th rest of your post is enlightening though, it shows your true colours for everyone to see.

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 10:36AM

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Whatever.

Point remains if it was as unpopular as it's claimed on this thread, (or social media in general) there wouldn't have been that massive pubic turn out in the UK.

What ever about trump talking up his numbers at events it's a bit hard to talk down the very visible numbers in the UK.

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 10:38AM

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What has banking got to do with a funeral.

MrMusician18 · 20-09-2022 10:38AM

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Hated, in some parts yes, but generally no. A racist backwater? Obviously not, it's still a big important country but is it as influential as it was say 10 years ago? I don't think so.

The UKs slide from superpower to great power to regional power to mid ranking power has been a long one. While this may have been inevitable, the mis-steps and hubris of the UKs ruling class have helped it along.

Yurt2 · 20-09-2022 10:39AM

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Let's not go down the road of true colours Chumley Warner.

The UK will need friends in this neighborhood in the future.

British exceoptionalism was fine and dandy when you had men in johdpurs calling shots from Mandalay to Bombay and their wives fanning themselves in the hill station. That's all gone and it's been gone quite a while.

Something you need to reconcile yourself with now: the UK is a low to no-growth economy sitting on the edge of the Atlantic, that most recently shredded its most important trading relationship. Its done its level best to shred the political relationships and any residual good-will also.

If pomp and ceremony is what you're after, pomp and ceremony is what you got yesterday. But it doesn't put bread in your mouth and it doesn't impress economic rainmakers.

I'll repeat: it's good to have friends, and now is a good time to appraise how many the UK has left after the last decade of being a complete donkey.

20-09-2022 10:40AM

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someone needs a hug

20-09-2022 10:41AM

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no idea, it seems to be another stick with which to beat the Brits.

20-09-2022 10:42AM

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This last week was a Royal Family party political broadcast on behalf of Englands new King Charles- it’s important to the monarchy that he’s accepted by the British public - and he was center stage at every turn- he’s embedded now in their minds so there’s certainly a few million sheep who will follow him forward - also given his age, he’ll try and cultivate the nice olde grandpaw image - albeit he’ll need Harry and Megser on his side for that one

Yurt2 · 20-09-2022 10:46AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119640761#Comment_119640761

You posted that yesterday also when I eviscerated you in another thread.

I'll take it as a sign you're digesting the L I handed you.

If you stop posting nonsense, you won't get your backside served to you, it's that simple.

And the worst part is, I was putting hard cold-light-of-day facts under your nose, which is what apparently drives you to post the above.

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 10:52AM

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If its not a big deal ignore it.

20-09-2022 10:52AM

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Theres plenty of roles Andy of Randiness can take on behind the scenes but he’d have no interest in them- take for example, Head Ranger of The Great Windsor Park- a lot of conservation work required there and someone’s got to do it- Duke of Edinburgh had that role previously.

There’s probably other similar low profile roles - if his Randiness is just sitting about riding horses as opposed to teenagers, he’s going to get fairly bored and possibly mischievous- it’s better to give him something to do - although if it doesn’t involve dressing up I’d doubt he’d be interested

Yurt2 · 20-09-2022 10:54AM

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Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 10:57AM

Seems like it was blue who brought banking into it.

Not sure it useful. You could start a new thread on it.

20-09-2022 11:00AM

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Afaik that Charles fellow persued his first wife when she was a teenager and he hitting for 30....hardly in a position to critise his brother then

yagan · 20-09-2022 11:02AM

Things change when people believe there's something better to change to, like how many people thought Brexit was a good idea but few are crowing about it now.

The RCC was monolithic institution here once, but now they're shuttering churches, the average priest age is something like late 60s now. Take back control banners may get another outing.

Flinty997 · 20-09-2022 11:03AM

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I think he'll be kept out of the limelight if possible.

Yurt2 · 20-09-2022 11:03AM

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Like this is kind of the absurdity of the royal family. What will Andrew the wrong 'un do with his time??? Oh we'll make him Laird and Protector Temporal of the Royal Estate Gardens.

Other constitutional monarchies in Europe don't go in for this guff half as much.

The Queen of Denmark chain smokes fags, turns up to cut the ribbon of a supermarket in Aarhus and everyone goes gets p*ssed. That's about the size of it.

Danes and even the Danish royal family know (with a nod and a wink) that's its an anachronism and do it in a low key manner.

There's an enforced piousness with the UK royal family, and we can even see it on this thread with (presumably) English pro-monarchists wigging-out aggressively trying to get everyone in an avowed republican country to tug their forelock - completely oblivious to the history.

Comical. This last week has been an education.

Queen Elizabeth II dies

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