Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I'm naturally suspicious enough to see this "tied/not tied" business as an attempt to muddy waters and discredit all reports.

The nightly late evening Russian propaganda view .

We're fighting Black water (remember them)

And negroes their words.

But it's ok for us to retreat from African-Americans

IS this the hill you want to stand and fight on?

Well there were mass graves, and there were bodies who had been executed. But the mass graves only contained civilians killed by shelling...

Really?

I don't know what cause you think you are serving here but it isn't that of truth and justice for the victims of Russian war crimes.

The guy on the left is Wagner. The guys on the right are Russian police. The Wagner guy is saying " Do you know who I am?"

The police then hop seven shades of shite out of him.

Troop morale is important, Ukraine have it in spades! 😅

On the mass graves In izyum .

NTV claim the Izyum mass grave is a "provocation", with one of them even suggesting that Ukraine did it to "spoil the impression" of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation summit in Uzbekistan

I agree - I think going into Crimea is a different conversation right now. It would be a bit like the Allies trying to get to Berlin before liberating occupied France to be seriously talking about it at this stage. First, Kherson has to be retaken and at least a good chunk of the rest of Ukraine's southern coast, and then there's the Donbas as well. Hopefully the rumours of an imminent Russian military collapse are true, but if they're not, then there remains considerable work to be done. Get through that and then the Ukrainians can assess how to push on from there.

Amusing to see the early posts on this thread, all the ones praising the "great and wise" Putin.

Putin is on record - in Russia - as making jokey, approving comments about rape:

https://ayenaw.com/2022/04/25/russias-rape-machine/

In the late 1940’s, Gunnar Myrdal, the Swedish economist and sociologist, predicted that the Americans and the British would make a mess of their diplomacy with the Russians, because they would assume that Russians are gentlemen, and that they would not make agreements which they would have no intention of carrying out.

“What you can’t believe,” Myrdal said, “is what every Swede knows in his bones. The Russian culture is not a gentleman culture.”

Writing in 1985, the late Eugene V. Rostow, former Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs of the United States and Dean of Yale Law School, noted that:

“The Soviet Union … is embarked on a policy of indefinite expansion fuelled by the practice of open aggression … And as a practical matter, the refusal to confront the profound differences between the foreign policies of the United States and the Soviet Union leads to all sorts of error and naivete in the formulation of Western policies … The Soviet Union is in the imperial mood of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, as a distinguished British historian has remarked – the imperial mood which the peoples and governments of the West have long since given up with relief. And the Soviet thrust for empire now threatens the state system which has evolved through trial and error since the end of the Napoleonic Wars.”

Links here: https://ayenaw.com/2022/07/23/negotiating-with-russia-is-a-liberal-delusion/

I agree with you somewhat, but IMO their are also some posters who would come on this thread and push known Russian propaganda which has been disproven many times, then they will try and make out they are against what Putin and Russia is doing.

Do these people realize how comical/stupid they seem to western people?

Absolutely spot on, your post should be mandatory reading for those that are unsure of themselves.

The Russian "nation" is simply unevolved - the Ukrainians are simply saving Eastern Europe.

Edit: The above isn't intended to be read sarcastically, I genuinely believe it's as clear as I've described.

In this case, it seems to be aimed solely at the Russian serfs : "We couldn't possibly be losing to Ukrainians, so the only explanation is that we are fighting NATO troops".