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Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    It's because they didn't need to in order to get the BER rating. We've an air to water heatpump but a large number of houses in the same estate but built after by a different builder have gas and solar, which seems an odd combination.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,182 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,182 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Cheaper is the basic answer.

    With the gas they don’t have the tighter Air Tightness requirements to make the HP efficiently work. They can rely on back stock values for the cold bridge points and don’t have to demonstrate a lower value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,817 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Is it easy enough to get heat pump heating water at night ? Never fiddled with it too much but maybe I should



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭mc2022B2TF


    You're all missing the point lads. Anyone that relies on electric as their only energy source and doesn't have solar is complete retarded

    People going on about regs. Wtf. Use your own brain for a change.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    It should be easy but I dont know what make/model you have. I could only attest to my own. You need to pull out the manual and figure it out. It should be as simple as going into a hot water menu and setting up a schedule that tells it to only heat water between, say 3am-8am.

    Its possibly (likely even) that your installer just left the default settings which will have it heating water as soon as it drops below a certain temp which means it will start heating during the day rate (likely after a shower).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    We've out coming on at 7am for the last hour of night rate. You don't need to run the heat pump through the night and there is usually a control panel where you can alter the schedule. Specifically out heat pump is a DWH as well, so that's what we have coming on. The radiators remain on thermostat. You don't have to run the heat pump through the night, your house will loose heat slowly and the pump uses a lot of power getting started in the morning, so the single best thing you can do is just shift that start point a bit early. Apart from that I wouldn't go messing with settings, could end up costing you a bomb.

    Solar may not be viable nor affordable for a significant number of people. Solar as a service is basically booked out. Additionally there is a massive range in terms of what installers are charging which can result in extremely long payback periods.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭VikingG


    Talking to a friend yesterday who is starting out on a major renovation - asked why he wasn't putting in solar and the response was capital costs - said he simply didn't have the extra 10K that he had priced it at. Obvious solution here is government providing 0% interest loans for Solar. PS he is not retarded



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,864 ✭✭✭stimpson


    You're missing the point. If you can hit the required BER with a heat pump, then there is no need for solar.

    Also, for much of the the time you need your house heated, your solar may not be producing very much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,817 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    cheers ill take a proper look, ours is a samsung / joule system.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    Hold on, do you think people buying a house off a builder can just opt to get solar installed at the time? The question was why builders are building new houses with Heat pumps and no solar, the answer is they can hit the Regs cheaper without it. Pure business. Solar for the longest time was just seen as a thing to help hit the required BER rating. The person building the house doesn't live there like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,817 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    exactly

    and then the decision to invest in solar becomes a return on investment question, and if you arent planning on staying into the long long term it may not make sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Tell him to run any necessary cables now, so he can do it later on with minimum disruption.

    I advised a mate on what he needed to do it a few years back, when he was in the same position with budget. Then he was able to install panels and inverter this year really easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    It's not all about hitting a certain BER, is it? Your solar will be reducing your overall bill via feed in tariff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭11811


    Righty, so used 5163 kWh so far this year. Split 1720 nighttime. 2932 days and 510 peak. Having done a quick bit of sums, there's not much difference between 24hr rate and day/night for me right now. But I think if I set up my charging, heat pump and other appliances to nighttime activity I can probably shave a few quid off the bill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,817 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    you need to add to that charging your new car at the night rate and i assume adding 7kwh per day at night rates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭11811


    Yup, taking that into consideration, it definitely looks worth my while to switch to day/night. Be a few hundred quid in the difference on that alone. Thanks for the help!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Split 1720 nighttime. 2932 days and 510 peak

    Ooh... "peak"... have you got a smart meter? Are you on a "smart tariff" or a standard 24hr tariff?

    If you have a smart meter and you want to go on a day/night tariff you will need to request a change of meter to a day/night meter via your electricity provider... its free to do but you will need to do that to get access to the day/night tariffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭11811


    Yeah, have a smart meter alright and on a standard 24hr tariff. Didn't realise you had to change meters...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    As it stands, with a smart meter, you can have a standard 24hr tariff or a smart tariff.


    You cannot have a day/night tariff. They are only allowed if you have the older day/night meters, which you can request. They are much better value than the smart tariffs.


    You can stick with your smart meter and signup to a smart tariff and have a day/night/peak rate but I’d advise against it at the moment as the rates are really poor compared to the day/night tariffs.

    e.g See Energia rate of 27/10 for its day/night rate and compare that to the smart tariffs!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Slightly off topic but there's a discussion on an EV group on Facebook about a neighbor using someone's charger and not paying for it. I'm getting grief for saying if I was charging at a friend's house I'd count the kWh usage pay them for it and someone is suggesting I should pay something towards the cost of the charger for using it! Jesus. Should I pay someone's mortgage when I'm in their house too? Bloody hell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,190 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Well to be fair if I was using a private homes charger I'd probably offer to pay somewhere between their unit rate and on the road public charging.. so if it cost 16 euro to charge is probably throw them 20 euro... No one's business what you pay really.. I'm sure your neighbour wouldn't be long telling you if they weren't happy... I have offered to pay my parents the odd time I top up and their place but they won't hear tell if it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I wouldn't be counting it down to the nearest cent, a 20-80% charge on a night rate in my car is around €3.50 so I'd probably throw them a fiver but they wouldn't want it because it's only €3.50. If they didn't want it I'd get them a pint or something of course we always get each other back for stuff. I just can't believe the idea of having to contribute to the cost of the charger unit itself just for using it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    Depends on if it's a regular thing or not and nature of your relationship. I wouldn't let a neighbour charge full stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭Old Jim


    Has anyone seen any nice designs for a dedicated wall/pillar to mount a zappi unit to? My unit will be situated away from the house/shed and am looking for an alternative to mounting it on a pole or pedestal. I am thinking something that incorporates a degree of shading to keep the sun & rain off the unit as well as cable management.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,817 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    are you not over thinking it ? It’s weather proof anyway and the zappi has cable management I.E. the cable wraps around the unit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Manion


    It's IP65 rated, there was a person on here before who lived near the coast and said it wasn't uncommon to get salt deposits and very heavy rain, which that rating may not really cover. In most urban settings you shouldn't need to do anything, but if your very remote, with weather extremes, I can see why you might.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I assume you are not interested in the MyEnergi pedestal then? It looks good on the few YT videos I've seen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Replaced the Type 1 Rolec with a Type 2 Hypervolt 2.0 today. Took me less than 2 hours and all working well. Tested the charger and getting 32A now. Left the clamp off for now, because we have a priority switch in place. Just need to test the Type 2 - Type 1 adapter for the Leaf when I find it later and then I’ll be happy out.

    The SIL just moved into a new house and has a 24kWh Leaf, so I’ll give her the Rolec.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,182 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




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