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Saving/Applying for a mortgage 2020-22 Edition

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  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭ClaudeVercetti


    I've got approval and am looking for a place at the moment. However landlord is giving the relevant notice so will need to move back home temporarily before potentially being able to go sale agreed on a property in the meantime.

    Will I need to reapply for a mortgage if my rent isn't going to be shown on recent bank statements for affordability?



  • Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭Icantthinkof1


    I don’t know the answer but could you continue to put what you would have paid in rent in addition to your savings for the time, providing it’s not a long term arrangement and your parents are open to you not paying rent while you’re living there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    If anything it'll work in your favour, your biggest outgoing is now potential savings. You just need to be disciplined and not slip into "this is now discretionary money now" which is a trap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    @Ikozma

    Unless it's a low value mortgage, you shouldn't have any problem doing it over 15 years once you can demonstrate that you would be comfortable making the repayments.

    It may not suit, but just to mention that you could get a 25 year mortgage with a good overpayment allowance, and pay it off as if it was a 15 year mortgage. It would give you that added security of being able to pay the reduced amount if you ever were short of cash at any stage due to changed circumstances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Can u apply for more than one AIP at around the same time ?


    I have documents submitted already to a broker but thinking to apply and submit another application by myself directly to bank.


    As in if u get AIP from one bank , can u apply for another one at the same time ?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Ciara26


    I moved home when I was buying. So what I did was put the same amount away. So instead of giving it to landlord, went to savings.



  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭ClaudeVercetti


    Thanks for the reply that's really reassuring to know! Did you have to give the lender a heads up in advance?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Yes, AIP is basically just a letter that the bank states that they're willing to loan you up to x amount based on you under going an unwritten process. It's the same as going for a loan in a bank/credit union/revolut at the same time. It won't reflect badly on you unless you draw down the loan and stop making repayments



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 TrooBoards


    20 days since posting this and still nothing... the builders told us last week they're pulling out if we don't get the Letter of Offer in the "next few days". Have been on to the bank constantly since last Thursday and was assured we'd have it yesterday... still nothing.

    Lots of "it's with so and so at the moment and I've escalated" etc. The thought of the sale falling through in the current climate is making my feel physically ill.



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ARJn


    Same Situation, loan offer pending with FI on a new build, the EA solicitor had already given us 1 week extension and then gave another week , and still I don't have offer 3 days past the 2nd extension.I think I have lost the house already (although have got no communication from EA yet)

    I was with a broker, not sure if Mortgage institutions are deliberately delaying the underwriting because they see a rate increase and want to make more of interest by delaying everyone by certain bit

    A big learning from all of this is Mortgage brokerage is just a middle man and adds "no" value even if they are free or paid , If I was the direct applicant I would have at least the power to go to the bank and get things moving or do some form of escalation. Due to my circumstances I had to go through broker which everyone suggested not to , I should have listened



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Viva La Gloria


    I went direct to AIB and it's a month now and still no loan offer. Every time I think I've submitted everything they come back with something else that's needed. It's been almost a week since I've heard anything from them. They never seem to answer calls and take ages to respond on the app portal. So in my case it's not really much quicker!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Viva La Gloria


    Does anyone know whether the green 5 yr fixed rate with AIB is available for existing customers that haven't purchased a property before, or is it only available for new customers and existing customers that already have a mortgage? That's what it sounds like from what I've seen online.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7 afoley91


    Anyone gone direct with BOI lately know how long from when you upload all documents to you hear back from underwriter? We are a mover mortgage and currently with Boi



  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Galwayhurl


    Has anyone heard of amyone getting more than 4.5 times salary?


    The 4.5 number seems to be widely mentioned in the media as the upper exemption limit, but there's no official upper limit in the Central bank rules.


    Has anyone heard of anyone receiving 5 times their salary?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Shamo


    Definitely available for existing AIB banking customers without prior mortgage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Viva La Gloria


    Ah brilliant, I was worried for a minute that I wouldn't be eligible for it! Thanks so much.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Amethyst05


    I was wondering if someone could shed some light here please...

    As a brief background, when my partner and I met he knew I had a kid from someone else (my daughter turned 9 this year). I've been with my partner for nearly three years now, want to have kids of our own and, we are both looking to get a joint mortgage. I am 30 and he is 32. I earn 36k and he earns 68k. I hope to get my salary bumped up once I qualify as a lawyer but for now, I have to endure earning less.

    We want to get a mortgage now because we have the 30k from HTB and know it is ending Dec 2022 so we want to use it. We engaged with a broker but are still gathering our mortgage docs so we don't know our position yet.

    He has savings of about 20k and I don't have any. I don't have savings because I pay for everything for my daughter (school fees then activities etc). We share home bills like rent, food and utilities but I don't ask my partner for money when it comes to my daughter.

    My question is...would any lender refuse us if we cannot show I have savings? (the fact that our mortgage application will rely only on my partner's savings)

    Thanks in advance!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    As long as his savings are consistent and alongside any rent he's paying currently cover the projected monthly repayment of the new mortgage it shouldn't be an issue.



  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭rosiem


    i have contacted 5 local solicitors to handle our house purchase none have replied is this common for people as I am worried this will be a stumbling block now when I had thought it would be the easy part.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    We contacted 2 for quotes, got he quotes the same day then just picked one of them no issues - not in Dublin though.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Galwayhurl


    Solicitors take their holidays in August so that may be why.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭snowgal


    hi all, I am thinking of going for a new job in public sector. Its on a fixed term basis for 3 years. But also hoping to apply for a mortgage in the next months. It only hit me today, might this be an issue?? OH is self employed. I am currently in a permanent private sector position. thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭cubatahavana


    Just got drawdown with Avant for a "one mortgage" locked at 2.65 for 24 years. We just got it before the rate rise to 3.65%. Extremely happy with it



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 LiaF



    Hi there, our mortgage application is currently in the underwriting process, and we received an update from our loan officer that the application is with their “credit forum” at the moment. Who are they? Is that just another term for underwriter or something else?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭stdidit


    We switched to Avant, just got it closed out last week so delighted we got it done before the rates went up.

    We haven't recieved any account details from Avant or any communication really. What are people's experience with Avant once you've moved? Do they send you details on your mortgage account? How do view the account on an ongoing basis? Can't find much info on this but guess I can try and contact them this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Paul_Mc1988


    They have no app or online portal to check the mortgage. Its pretty **** but for the rate its worth it.


    To overpay you transfer to a Barclays account that they will give you if you email them. You can only transfer to it twice a year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 freeq


    We have an AIP with BOI through a broker. We were hoping to get to closing in the next 5 weeks as OH got a new job offer to be starting early November so wanted to ensure it did not affect the mortgage drawdown.

    We found property and gone sale agreed 18th August, paid booking deposit and informed brokers and organised surveyors to check the property.

    Meanwhile, application for loan offer was submitted by the broker to BOi and reuquested the loan amount based on the sale price originally agreed on.

    Then, got the surveyor report which came back with few minor issues. These gave a reason to negotiate with seller and as result reduced the sale price by a 3k roughly.

    Informed the broker last week and they say we have to start the loan offer application over again due to the new sale price. It's been three weeks and we have expected the offer to come this week but now looks like it will be another 3 weeks (or so). We are considering reversing the price reduction as 3k doesn't seem greater benefit for the sake of it than getting much delayed loan offer.

    Contracts in the process of making their way to our solicitors so that's all in order.

    Anyone had similar experience or could recommend best approach ?

    What are realistic drawdown lead times currently with BOI?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,270 ✭✭✭COH




  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭AirAmp2019


    The board or team that decide if they will lend you the money or not based on the findings of the loan officer



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  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭AirAmp2019


    Very basic!

    A link to a form you have to print to fill in and scan back to them to change payment details level of basic, but their rates are good! Just don't try to do anything with them last minute.



  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭AirAmp2019


    Worth a conversation with a broker or even directly with a bank to advise you on this one. I would likely say that yes it would affect you if your letter from employer specifically stated that you had a contract end date. It depends on what your letter from employer might say.

    Having said that the timelines for public sector can be painfully slow and you may have it across the line before a change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭TheGunns


    Is there any issue with paying off a car loan early when waiting to draw down mortgage? Won't be drawing down for a few months but thought I had read somewhere that early repayment of loan wasn't actually seen as I good thing but I can't find where I read that now! Just don't want there to be any issues when need final approvals etc to draw down



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I would wait until after the drawdown.

    You never know when they could ask for a recent bank statement, and having less of a balance in the account might raise some questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 FA12345


    I have a couple of questions, we have a complicated situation and therefore only two providers will consider an application - PTSB & Finance Ireland. We're using a broker and he told us the AIP wait times for FI are very long, and anyway, the rates with PTSB are better.

    Q1: Does anyone know how long once the application goes into PTSB that we might expect a decision to take for AIP?

    Q2: Regarding AIP, what kind of thing could change the lenders minds on this? I'd hate to mess up an AIP by doing something silly and then be refused (especially given the lack of lenders we can apply to!)

    The complications of our situation include losing our home if we don't get approval within the next year, so we are anxious about the whole process!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 nuala4


    I have never had a loan from a bank or credit union A family member loaned me 8000 to buy a car which I repaid within a year I have a direct debit to a savings account 400 per month I have been saving with it for 2 years I pay rent 450 per month Will no record of repaying a loan be an issue?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,996 ✭✭✭optogirl


    It shouldn't - neither myself or husband had ever taken out a loan and we got approval



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭HerrKapitan


    20% deposits and 2.5 lending limits fast approaching. Great Reset is gathering pace, as there is no pushback.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    What’s the great reset? What will happen



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    It is something that came about during the pandemic where the world would rebuild back in a more sustainable way. However, there is also a conspiracy theory around it that covid was created and planned so as to destroy the world economy and allow the elites to take control, enslave the rest of us and stop us owning property.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Let's not entertain those that are so far gone down the loo-lah slide that they get their "news" from Facebook/Telegram groups.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 sophieb21


    Hi there,

    has anyone recently been through the underwriting process with BOI. Our case application was just submitted today. BOI seem very thorough so feel they have a good solid case, how long should I expect the next steps to take?

    also going through EBS but they seem extremely slow



  • Registered Users Posts: 49 Thistley


    Our original lender is going extremely slow so also applied to BOI. Our broker submitted our BOI application last Friday. The Mortgage Guy on Instagram said BOI takes around 3- 4 weeks until AIP and the same for Loan Offer. If Sale Agreed, it can go straight to Loan Offer and takes around 3-4 weeks total.



  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭ClaudeVercetti


    Our family GP retired and I amn't registered with one at the moment - would this be an impediment to getting mortgage protection?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 696 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    I’ve never had to provide GP info for a mortgage. You may need one for the mortgage protection policy but that is some time away of you’re just startling the process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 FA12345


    Does anyone know how long is PTSB taking to give full credit approval once the application and all the paperwork has gone in? We submitted through a broker on Monday, and they came back on Wednesday looking for a couple of documents whihc I got to them on Thursday!

    Their website says 72 hours but the broker said not a chance, all the lenders on backed up with switch etc right now... Be good to have an idea of when though!



  • Registered Users Posts: 18 deedeedee24


    Did you hear anything yet? Waiting since Sept 26th. There seems to be huge delays... I'm thinking could be even another few weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 FA12345


    Not yet, our broker said 3-4 weeks to hear back - we also applied on the 26th September! Everybody is rushing to switch and fix with the interest rates and there is a huge backlog. Let us know when you hear back!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Dante




  • Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Plasandrunt


    Hi guys so I'd appreciate a little bit of advice on this.

    I'm currently sale agreed on my apartment, mortgage free, due to close in the next few weeks, everything still seems to be going ahead as planned despite recent developments. My plan was to sell up, live with my friend for a while. Do the whole 6 months savings thing (I'd have the deposit already from apartment sale) and clear up my bank account (Few betting transactions etc..) and then get a mortgage.

    However a place has come up that I've got word they'd accept a certain price. As it stands I've no savings but I am paying back a bank loan that I received a year ago and I topped up last month (so my bank has proved it will give me finance if needed already). If I was to pay off this loan in full using the proceeds from apartment sale I'd need a 30% mortgage and these mortgage repayments would be less per month than the current amount I'm paying off the personal loan.

    Do you reckon I should approach the bank now or wait until the sale goes through so I have the proceeds there and would you advise putting an offer in on the property or waiting until I get confirmation from the bank on acceptance of mortgage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18 deedeedee24


    I would ring a broker for sure. They will know how you should approach this. Tell them exactly what you need to clean up on statements etc.



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