Russia - threadbanned users in OP

If you look at the two Finnish wars in WW II, the Finns were able to give a good account of themselves initially and push the Soviets (which included Ukrainians at the time) back into Russian territory. Ultimately though, the Russians won and seized Karelia. Finland only survived because the Russians preferred to have a buffer with Sweden (a historic enemy defeated by the Russians at modern day Poltava in today's Ukraine.)

In the first Chechen war, the Russians lost 14,000 men and called a halt to the war, Putin came in and the Russians took Chechyna, this time with 40,000 Russian soldier casualties over the years it lasted, there was the initial combat phase of 8 months, followed by the insurgency phase that lasted several years.

There are several other examples where the Russians have taken heavy losses, regrouped and come back to win. With Ukraine they made a reckless hubristic gamble and they are not going to achieve all the objectives they intended. Russia is still a major economy, has the resources for a comeback and historically that's what they do and on that basis Ukraine may not achieve total victory, they may have to cede some land to get the Russians off their back, move on and rebuild their economy and society.

Historically Russia did cede territory in 1917 due to the internal Bolshevik revolution driven in part by the losses at the front against the Germans and Austrians and a civil war that went on for 5 years after that, including the Poland.Soviet (Ukrainian) war between 1918 and 1921. They gained it all back and then some 20 years later under Stalin.

I'm not sure exactly which outlet it would be, but I bet it has a piece in it about George Soros meeting with the World Economic Forum to eliminate the words 'man' and 'woman' from the dictionary.

I see you conveniently make no mention of Afghanistan who were backed by the US.

All those other wars Chechnya, Georgia, Finland etc they were not up against anything like what they are in Ukraine with the backing of almost the entire western world. This is multiple times worse than Afghanistan for them. And the more they brutally fight on the more Ukraine will be backed up and the longer the sanctions will persist. They are at nothing.

There are several other examples where the Russians have taken heavy losses, regrouped and come back to win. ..

Lol like where

Delusional.

Edit: posted a meme that was already posted, thread is moving a bit quick for me. Since i can’t delete, here are a few more, some of which mightn’t have been posted already……

Well whatever chance he had back in February going in with everything he had inc, full mobilization and being succeeding, that chance is gone now. His mobilization will take at least 6 mths to prepare his army, and that's at a minimum, and assuming that he will have all the gear and logistics in pace. And then he will have to face a heavily armed and experienced Ukraine force , who will in the intervening time further increased their abilities, and presumably made even more territorial gains ( if not actually outright winning the war )

Ukraine goes into NATO much sooner than the 20 years and renders the problem moot, russia would need to look elsewhere for future expansion.

So...mobilisation it is, then.

The Kearsage and friends have been in the Baltic Sea for a while now, they took part in military excercises with the Finnish navy in mid-August - they're just there to remind Russia not to try anything stupid.

Ah, Julia. I've been watching her since her Frontline appearance in 2014. Well researched, buy full of smoke and mirrors and she has zero military knowledge or up-to-date facts. However, I agree with both of your points that Putin is, in fact, a moderate. Because I can tell you, he is surrounded by ultra-Nationalist overly-zealous generals who really do want to go all out and level Kiev. However, it's now too late.

Plus, she mentions that Russia is now fighting NATO because of the weapons being supplied. Nonsense. I have a British-made Lee-enfield rifle. ( it was my Dads.) It's probably one of the most accurate rifles out there. ( In Syria, I came across hundreds of them, still in use, with all the original cleaning gear still in the stock).It's British. It was used by one side of the Irish Civil War in the early 1920's and actually SUPPLIED to them by the British. Does this mean that some Irishmen in the war were actually fighting the British? No!

Trust me, if Nato does get involved, and personally I believe it will at some stage before this war ends, it will be game over for a functioning Russian administration in 48 hours. It will start with satellites being hit and go from there. A US-led NATO logistical operation is a sight to see. Christ, the US Navy was even doing a trial run Convoy across the Atlantic a few months ago to practice getting weapons and food to Europe without being attacked by subs. NATO has never been more ready since its inception, but they are not fighting the Russians, the Ukranians are.

Back to Julia. She's nice to look at, has amazing knowledge and contacts within Russia, but is playing to US audiences. Mark my words, she will be a US Secretary of State within 10 years, as a commenter also pointed out.