Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Wasn't sensational there has been discussions on putins health going back to the last invasion of Ukraine.

While he might not have a particular cancer,he does have some kind of either physical condition or neurological condition as seen in the last few videos of him slumped in his seat or his legs shaking uncontrollably

Yet you will still get posters trying to convince us that Ukraine and NATO are the problem

Absolutely, the only long term fix is to get most or all Russian sympathisers out, like India and the formation of Pakistan. Same for any Russian sympathisers living here, like that famous 4wd with the flags and that little convoy here; It would be my preference they leave and F of back whence they came, and take their sodding embassy spy hub with them.

I don't know. Russia has certainly screwed over the LNR & DNR by forcing conscription on every able-bodied man and sending them to the front-lines of the hottest battles with ancient equipment and gear. Given the amount of propaganda they are subjected to though they might think that they're still better off than in Ukraine.

Pick-n-Mix 🤣 I didn't believe it was the natives stirring up the problems with Kiev in the first place; just Putinboys and 'little green men.' I imagine the folks that want to get on with their normal lives would be well rid of the Orcs and their lackeys. Whether they can remains to be seen.

Being separatists and wanting to join a larger fascist state was always going to end badly. They are too stupid to realise that said fascists are just using them for their own ends and couldn't give a toss about them in reality.

Russian PMC's gained a village south of Bakhmut apparently.

It's a weird dynamic at the moment. Instead of trying to hold what they have already won in costly battles, they are trying to win new territory in brand new and costly battles.

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The problem is that for France and Germany to get to the lasting arrangement we see know, it took three devastating wars within less than a century (Franco-Prussian War, WW1, WW2), with massive destruction in both countries. Even then, it took someone with the force of character of Charles de Gaulle on one side and Konrad Adenauer on the other to drive forward the rapprochement between Germany and France. Without their close working relationship, we would likely not have had moments like Helmut Kohl & Francois Mitterand holding hands at Verdun, or any of the other moments of close cooperation between the two countries.

I don't see anyone with even a fraction of a percentage of the charisma and force of character of even Adenauer in Russia at the moment. As for the Ukrainian side, I don't think they have too much time to spend on thinking about these issues at the moment, though I agree with you that some sort of modus vivendi will eventually have to be found. I just can't see it happen anytime soon, certainly not in the timeframe that we've seen in Europe post WW-2

And that's not even touching on the issue of civil society. I've made this point before, but one of the reasons why Germany was able to abandon the Nazi ways so quickly, apart from massive cases of selective amnesia in significant parts of the administration and (mostly) conservative political parties, was that both Germany and the numerous kingdoms and principalities that preceded it had well established civil societies, with traditions of public discourse going back well into the 1700s or even earlier. Even Prussia, which was hardly a model for an enlightened state, had levels of civic discourse and participation that were considerable. It is this tradition that allowed for things like the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial or the many uncomfortable and painful discussions within families in post-war Germany, including my own, to take place.

I don't see any of that in Russia. Any attempts to develop the structures and culture necessary for a true civil society were stomped out once Putin came to power, and there's no prior tradition of civic discourse or citizen participation that Russia could fall back on in any post-Putin era. So long as that is not the case, any rapprochement in Eastern Europe will depend not on the citizens of Russia, but on the interests and attitude of whoever holds power in Moscow.

Calls Ukrainians pigs.

Immediately proceeds to pick his nose.

Agree. If the Rashists hadn't of used the excuse that Germany did in ww2 to declare war on it's neighbours i.e they speak russian so must be russian so hence it is russia. Then there may have been a different view. But they did and forcibly issued passports in occupied areas.

Not for anyone here to say. But it looks like in former occupied areas it'll be you're either Ukrainian or not. It'll be same as before. You better learn Ukrainian. Or bugger back to Russia.

People forget after germany using german heritage ex pats in the invaded countries that after the war there was a purge and walk back to Germany for said direct german or german descendants. Germany could never use that excuse again as a reason to invade those around her. Putin's Russia never learned the history but had Hitler's germany as the role model to follow. Be plenty now to say "Feck em" after all this by Putin.

Some people on Twitter were claiming Kyselivka in Kherson was taken by Ukraine, but this Russian propaganda video shows otherwise.

However by the definition of your call to expels Russians he is one who would be expelled but for a trick of faith. There are thousands of people in the DPR and LPR who have been forcibly conscripted into the militias. There are 4 or perhaps 5 million who are exactly the same as Zelinsy, Russian speakers who you will cleanse out of Ukraine. Its is their country, just as much as it Zelinskys and just as much as Ireland is Rory Bests or Ian Paisley jrs.

As an Australian an Aboriginal Australian may one day call for all of your relatives (assuming of course you are not Aboriginal) to be expelled. That persons anger at injustice served on his peoples would be understandable but it would not justify revenge on all whites in Australia.

You may refer to it as Mary Poppins but thats is infantile and kneejerk, it is the solution that ended WW1 and started WW2, what you propose is the creation of the next war, instead of winning this one and then settling the issues that caused it from a position of power.

(The Australian point was for a subsequent reply but stands)

At Zaporizhzhia direction Russian army shelled Kamyanske, Mala Tokmachka, Sherbaky, Charivne, Nesteryanka, Orikhiv, Bilohirya, Zaliznychne, Temyrivka, Novopil and Vremivka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report