Queen Elizabeth II dies

rob316 · 09-09-2022 09:10AM

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We are inextricably linked throughout history and our closest neighbouring country. And most of us just don't care enough for the "hate the Brits" sentiment and could care less about a flag been lowered.

facehugger99 · 09-09-2022 09:11AM

Poor awl Francie Brady picked the wrong week to get banned from Current Affairs - imagine the frustration.

09-09-2022 09:14AM

Tribute from Buzz Aldrin, Apollo 11 astronaut. A living legend is the Buzz.

https://twitter.com/TheRealBuzz/status/1567960378272845831?s=20&t=P5KLPYfA9qjigRM2I2OjkA

starkid · 09-09-2022 09:40AM

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i mean i somewhat agree about being mature etc. alot of Irish history is intertwined etc. if its real deep hatred for her and Britain well then you must despise Georgian Dublin and many other things from our shared histories.

but you left here in 1995 so it gives you no real right to pontificate on how Irish people deal with this. using terms like hrm is a bit west british. i'm sure you are now a West Brit if you still live in Uk (so is my brother) thats grand etc thats you. many Irish people recognise the Royal family and Lords system as inherently anti human and archaic. the lady served her country well etc. but apart from recognising protocol and decorum there is absolutely no reason for Irish people to bat an eyelid.

We have people legitimately saying in reddit uk that normal people and society could learn a thing from her. its a really twisted narrative imo. as bad as chants. whatever you think about her as a person, its the monarchy most Irish people dislike. the institution. Blue blood elites often with inherited wealth keeping their heel on the working class.

We can never truly understand of course. i sympathise with older Britons, its like the pope dying for older Irish catholics. but the stuff going on in US with minutes of silence at baseball games etc, is nonsense. thank God most of our sports stuff hasn''t crossed over yet like rugby etc.

and yes the Rovers fans chanting last night, many of them will be today reading the mail/sun, getting ready for man u/pool and watching corrie and drinking Carling etc. they are absolute hypocrites and fools.

its historic and i can understand British people struggling. its their whole culture. it makes total sense even as an anti monarchist (globally)

non uninonists in Canada, Australia, Scotland, USA and even Ireland, not so much. And i'm not talking about the half mast thing. i'd imagine if Leinster were playing an English team at home there would be talk of minutes silence and black armbands. now even that would be fine, as you'd have to hope it would be reciprocal if our president died. Although with the hierarchy of death i'd imagine it wouldn't be.

walshb · 09-09-2022 09:40AM

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I was trying to get my head around trying to compare lowering the flag here for Britain, our nearest neighbor, whom we have centuries of connections/ties to, and Japan......

09-09-2022 09:44AM

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Wow. The equivalences that some people are trying to draw to mask an anti Brit mentality are astonishing

09-09-2022 09:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119594134#Comment_119594134

Is that the same post where the poster said it'd be fine to lower the flag to half-mast if an EU member state leader died?

09-09-2022 09:54AM

The big question now is how will the funeral be choreographed. Traditional heavy royal ceremony or attempts to exploit it to garner popular support, a sort of Diana 2?

Larbre34 · 09-09-2022 10:01AM

My OH is also English and when I sent her a copy of the updated lyrics to God Save the KING, she gave me a dead arm.

09-09-2022 10:07AM

Re Balmoral, I took a day trip there out of Aberdeen, and was shown where she resided during her stays there. It wasn’t inside the palace, that was purely for ceremonial/entertainment occasions, but in a rather plain two story house in the grounds, about the size of large family homes you see dotted around rural Ireland. A cook and some staff would reside there and in a neighbouring house, but she would do some of her own cooking there and got to be the closest to being an “ordinary person” there.

yourdeadwright · 09-09-2022 10:08AM

Fell sorry for her family sad to see anyone die, not at all interested in the Monarchy so out dated,

Also its one of those if you've nothing nice to say don't say anything at all moments , Certainly don't mock someone's death stay classy folks .

Dr Turk Turkelton · 09-09-2022 10:12AM

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Jesus- another atrocity by the British.

xxyyzz · 09-09-2022 10:13AM

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Don't worry, the gang are all over on reddit r/Ireland with trousers down, typing with one hand and lad in the other. You'd think we just won our independence. Most of them were only republicans in pampers when McGuinness was shaking the queen's hand.

breezy1985 · 09-09-2022 10:13AM

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The Croke Park protest

Be right back · 09-09-2022 10:19AM

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He couldn't see the irony if you slapped him in the face with it!

dublin49 · 09-09-2022 10:20AM

you would have to admire her stoicism but what a nonsense the whole charade is,she was good at a career that should not exist.Sad for her loved ones but shud really keep the rest of us out of it .Their pageantry is there to fool the masses that there is something to this monarchy lark so they need to wheel out the big guns for this.Very like the church in that regard.Never mind the reality look at all the gold.

seenitall · 09-09-2022 10:20AM

Elizabeth translates to Isabel in Spanish. Mind blown. Every day is a school day. (Broadly speaking, I work in the field of linguistics, so feel I should have known this somehow.)

Neyite · 09-09-2022 10:26AM

It's sad for her family but as death goes, she got a pretty good one - comfortable at home, family around her, no long and awful decline or dementia and was on her feet and sharp as a tack to the very end.

I'd say most of us hope it's that way when our own time is up.

whisky_galore · 09-09-2022 10:29AM

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You can't fix stupid.

Something unsavoury about the sort of people who enjoy dancing on an elderly woman's grave.

walshb · 09-09-2022 10:36AM

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If a section of British people want it to exist, who is anyone else to tell them this is wrong?

Is it illegal that Britain has a monarchy or something? Is there some defined international laws they are breaking?

I find it astonishing that the Crown's existence rankles with people. Nobody has to think it's a good idea, or even agree that it exists, but to be saying it should NOT exist seems illogical.

For pretty much everyone, its existence has absolutely no bearing or impact on their existence.

We live in a democracy, as do Britain. We live by our elected democratic laws and customs. Happy days!

cuttingtimber22 · 09-09-2022 10:38AM

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https://www.historyireland.com/de-valera-hitler-the-visit-of-condolence-may-1945/

Here is some background. It was certainly a ‘fail’ and naive by Dev and then he was hammered for it - and positives by Ireland during the emergency were allowed to be airbrushed by the likes of Churchill.

ancapailldorcha · 09-09-2022 10:40AM

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The "Know your place, peasants" argument is spectacularly unconvincing as always.

People are allowed to question things. If it concerns you so much that you're resorting to this sort of silly tut-tutting then you might want to present an argument.

skallywag · 09-09-2022 10:41AM

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Completely correct.

Until the time comes that parliament moves on them then they are there and one needs to respect that.

If they did make a move then would they wheel out the guillotine I wonder? I guess not, you can't really get away with that these days.

Fandymo · 09-09-2022 10:42AM

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What has a photoshopped picture got to do with the queen popping her clogs??

rob316 · 09-09-2022 10:43AM

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She's a tourist attraction that's really it. Show the world this sort of fantasy regal identity of the British

ancapailldorcha · 09-09-2022 10:43AM

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Was she?

Plenty of people flock to the Palace of Versailles daily despite the French not having had anything resembling a monarch since 1870.

whisky_galore · 09-09-2022 10:49AM

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I imagine whoever comes after Charles will strip down the trappings even more and further deformalise the monarchy. It'll probably be a short reign for him.

The matter whether there's a monarchy or not in GB is entirely up to them, not for us or anyone else to judge. There's monarchies all over the world but this one is the only one people here get pissy about.

mohawk · 09-09-2022 10:51AM

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Agreed totally. Some of the opinions on social media are mad.

Although it was the British Monarchy that started the plantations and colonisation of this island what relevance does it actually have today. It was quite a few centuries ago and the British Monarchy has had zero power for a couple centuries at this stage.

The trend to judge people based on their ancestors actions back in a time where morals and values were completely different to modern western values is just bizarre.

The world went through centuries and centuries of a variety of cultures establishing empires. All those empires left a lasting impact long after they collapsed. Unfortunately, war and violence appear to be a part of humanity.

breezy1985 · 09-09-2022 10:52AM

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Speak for yourself I get pissy about all of them.

StrawbsM · 09-09-2022 10:52AM

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It’s no fantasy. Kings and Queens have reigned for hundreds and hundreds of years. If it is ever put to a vote, I would vote for monarchs to remain as the head of state.

Queen Elizabeth II dies

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