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Queen Elizabeth II dies

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Is Charles unpopular though? I’ve always liked him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,120 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    The substantial weight loss might indicate that. She was never a slim woman, probably not overweight either but she looks to have shed a substantial number of kilograms..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,476 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Beeb watching for a flight carrying members of royal household to Aberdeen...

    Not a fan of royalty or undeserved privilege but the woman has given a lot to her country ( yes as they have , willingly , as well to her , I know ) and it will be a big loss to all of our friends in the UK and her family , as would be the passing of any mother , grandmother, person in the service of the public , and more in her case . So for that I am sorry for them .

    I do hate the continuing knawing insistence of the British media to follow every aspect of these people's lives in minutest detail as if it is of worldwide importance .

    It is sad of course , but we don't get the same coverage of other royal families ..or are their countries media as bad and we don't hear about it ?

    Oh , just seeing it is the same on Sky !



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Terry High Motorcyclist


    I think it's to do with how revered Princess Diana still is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,387 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    If she's not already gone, it's the machine keeping her alive, and their gathering for the switch off.



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  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Terry High Motorcyclist


    I had no idea Balmoral was so far north.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,446 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    That David was a Nazi supporter and willing to sit on the throne as a Naxi stood is not mere spin, it's documented fact. And why would I not have heard of Prince Edward and what's he got to do with the succession?

    I asked why Charles would want to hand the Crown to William when he has never indicated any interest in doing so and why would William want that while his kids are still young? The very fact the the current Monarch was actively Head of State til a couple of days ago at the age of 96 tells you there should be no requirement to step aside due to age unless it's effecting your ability to work. Charles does not seem frail to me.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,432 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    she has to be joking. the BBC will announce it when they're told to, the protocols agreed with them on this are probably a century old. if the BBC know ahead of everyone else, they're told under strict conditions and heads would roll if they violated those conditions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,666 ✭✭✭archfi


    I'm going with the 'already dead' conclusions here.

    The death of Queen Elizabeth has been a massively planned and orchestrated state event for years and the BBC is an integral part of that including the timing of the announcement.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭Degag




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭ozmo


    Read he might change his name to King George (VII) (its one of his birth names)

    as the Previous 2 King Charles weren't very well remembered.. But my absolute guess is he's gone by Charles so long at this stage its unlikely he will change it now...

    “Roll it back”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,387 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Huw Edwards entire tone just shifted, he's been told something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,446 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    I also think she has died already. They're just getting everyone together and things in order before the announcement.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 21,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Family on the way to Balmoral from Aberdeen, surely an announcement soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Will take about 45 mins for them to get there. Was that William, Sophie, Edward then Andrew that disembarked?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,476 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Think that question about Charles was a throwback to the days when his marriage to a divorcee with Catholic children might get in the way of his becoming head of State and head of the Church of England .

    Notwithstanding the blessing herself gave Camilla succeeding as Queen consort to Charles following her death recently , it would be unlikely that there be any objection , especially as Camilla is past childbearing age(!)

    Edited to correct , Camilla not a Catholic herself .

    Post edited by Goldengirl on


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Other than kids, grandkids currently being in transit and they won't announce anything until they arrive at Balmoral now I don't think they would have been keeping anything quiet about her death since this morning.

    If she died this morning it would have been announced already. If she died now then they will wait an hour or two for the family to arrive first. Otherwise the news would be out pretty much straight away.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Nicholas Witchell is still wearing a blue tie though. When the black tie comes out then she's dead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    I can only speak for myself here but Charles and Diana were a mismatch and he had as little say in who he married as she did. The fact that he then went on to marry (and remain married) to the woman he has always loved has earned him my respect.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,446 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    What we can expect in the coming days. God save us, from the Queen...!

    The most elaborate plans are for what happens if she passes away at Balmoral, where she spends three months of the year. This will trigger an initial wave of Scottish ritual. First, the Queen’s body will lie at rest in her smallest palace, at Holyroodhouse, in Edinburgh, where she is traditionally guarded by the Royal Company of Archers, who wear eagle feathers in their bonnets. Then the coffin will be carried up the Royal Mile to St Giles’s cathedral, for a service of reception, before being put on board the Royal Train at Waverley station for a sad progress down the east coast mainline. Crowds are expected at level crossings and on station platforms the length of the country – from Musselburgh and Thirsk in the north, to Peterborough and Hatfield in the south – to throw flowers on the passing train. (Another locomotive will follow behind, to clear debris from the tracks.) “It’s actually very complicated,” one transport official told me.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,412 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    In no way a monarchist but she's quite a remarkable woman. Hopefully she pulls through.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    What would her being or not being of child bearing age have to do with anything. Charles already had children and grandchildren. The succession is William and then his children. And in the extremely unlikely event of something happening to all of them it would go to Harry and then his children.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    I think this is it. Horses just arrived through the front gate too.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    A person will pin a notice on the gates of Buckingham Palace at the same time as all the news channels get the call.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 21,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    and what, rules for another 20 years? She's 96, death and taxes come for us all (not the taxes in her case obviously).

    There's certainly an argument that she should have stood aside some years ago - if there is a point in having a monarch then they should be able to fulfil their public functions. Charles has been standing in for her in recent years - other countries' monarchs have abdicated in favour of their children and the syk hasn't fallen in (not that I have huge sympathy for Charles either way).

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,930 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Apparently her private secretary will make the first public announcement, not medical staff or family members (though they may do something after)



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