BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

Actually both are moving away from it, I mean, the Brits left the EU. Again, these two countries have managed to avoid authoritarianism and will continue to do so! Their political systems, in particular the US are specifically designed to protect the rights of citizens, just look at what States people are leaving from and where they are going to in massive numbers, the free market is speaking!

I think that has more to do with them being English-speaking countries than a reflection on their political stability. Irish people historically have mostly stuck to the Anglosphere.

The EU is another layer of authority, which it is.

The Guardian isn't exactly known for it's balance to be fair, just look at what is happening in Florida over the last two years, where do you think those people moved from?

https://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-texas-see-largest-population-increases-as-us-has-slowest-growth-rate-in-history Fox's isn't known for its balance either as you know!

You see how easy it is to be misled by media, the best thing to do is wait until the next census. But what we will see very shortly what way Florida votes, a notorious swing state.

Lol the US and UK protect citizens rights do they? And yet what is one of Liz Truss first expected actions? An absolute destruction of workers rights in the UK including holidays sick time and working hours to name but a few. I wont even get into how far the US has gone away from protecting citizens rights except to point out that according the the US supreme court the police no longer have a duty to protect the citizens they supposedly serve.

Far right? What are you on about? Media is polarized, a blind man can spot that....just because you don't like a media source doesn't mean it's "far right"....a joke of an accusation!

Who invaded China? Japan/Soviet Union

And, seriously? Canada is authoritarian? I'm guessing because they didn't put up with those fkwits in the trucks?

This has been discussed on "The Rest Is Politics" a few times. Traditionally both the Conservatives and Labour were broad churches with room from centrists to the harder left and right. Particularly the Conservatives, and Johnson's purge of remainers before the last election, has changed that dynamic and there's not much of the "left" of the Tory Party in Parliament. Stewart has put, iirc, as they were effectively coalitions in the past within the same party. He's now in favour of some form of PR.

You've lost the narrative here. The thread's about Liz truss.

Yinno, there is a steady supply of whinging about Irish politics that doesn't seem to hold up to scrutiny. Economy doing well? Seems like it, paying down foreign debt nicely and plenty of jobs going begging. Peaceful? In general, yeah, way less crime in Ireland than most other Western countries. Progressive? A bit slow here - but hard to throw off the yoke of the RCC.

Anyway, whinging about how well Irish politicians are doing, probably doesn't belong in a Liz Truss thread. No Irish politician has ever had as much on their plate as Liz Truss does, she's the PM of a much larger, more complicated country with a substantial international presence, if not as much influence as once before.

It's possible to have an interest on a topic and not have a view. Let's be honest here, we live in interesting times.

Sorry, but I have to disagree here.

Yes Ireland is doing ok if you happen to own your own home, have a nice job with one of those multinationals, a nice public sector position, a pensioner with nice private/public pension and not sick or dependent on care. Then yes wipee do.

But it aint doing so well if you happen to be someone looking for rental accommodation, trying to buy a first home, a student or parents of students trying to find accommodation so they can go to college, someone sick sitting on a waiting list for months if not years, a carer, someone elderly in shyte nursing home, a sick child still waiting for a world class hospital, someone facing daily harassment from scrots that our police and very lax justice system do SFA about or a small struggling farmer that the greens and the environmentalists want to drive into oblivion.

And any little cold that hits the US and other major world economies can decimate ours as our dependence on FDI has drastically increased.

So no everything is not rosy in Ireland and the vast majority of our politicians are incompetent arrogant fools, more interested in private gain or getting sycophantic gimps in the media (mainstream and social) to laud them.

BTW progressive these days seems to mean fecking out one controlling religion to throw out the welcome matt for an even worse one.

As for Truss ...

she is an ambitious eejit, devoid of leadership skills, lacking in charisma, impervious to the advice of others, headstrong and she may very well destroy Britain by starting a crusade against her own working classes and an economic war with EU.

Anyone that welcomes morons like Rees Mogg into their cabinet is dangerous.

Isn't the answer in your own post?

If the people of the US don't like their government, they vote in another one, but sometimes, e.g. Obama, they vote in their President for two terms.

If the people of the UK don't like their government, they vote in another one, but we have had 12 years of Conservative government, as the UK people have been happy with that party.

If the people of Ireland don't like their government, they vote in another one, and we have had several changes of government parties over the last few decades. In fact, we have had more changes of party in government than either of the other two. That makes the last sentence of your post very strange. We have had FF, FG, Labour, Greens, and various independents and independent groupings, all in power since 2010.