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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,888 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    What car do you have? If there's stop button on the car dash couldn't you slide the max charge % down to your current % and it'd stop anyway?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama


    Quick question, I am off to Area 6 at the weekend, kids are babbling something about a big boat that sank a hundred years ago.


    There is no answer on the esb website, but will the ecars card work on chargers up there and am i reading it right , that they are free? Never mind smuggling diesel, i'm going to get into the business of smuggling electrons!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭mackerski


    The card works, and yes, it's free. But only if you can find a free working unit. Sometimes you get what you pay for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,296 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Does it stop the actual charging session? I mean if the connector doesn't get released then does the charger think the session is still going?

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,863 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Does it stop the actual charging session?

    It should. The car is in charge of the whole charging session, at all times telling the charger how much power to deliver. If the car tells the charger "I'm done, thanks" then the session is over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,888 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Stop it on the dash and press the unlock button in the key to release the charger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,127 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The cEars card will work up North. Though the real question is will you be lucky enough to find a charger that's both working, and not hogged all day by a local!!!1


    The big boat that sank 110 years ago place seemingly do have EV chargers in their underground carpark, but with anything NI, I wouldn't assume a guaranteed charge anywhere, and would be topping up to 100% in Castlebellingham and Leafspeeding it up and back in teh hope of making it back to Castlebellingham again.....


    Available working chargers in NI are like unicorn farts..... don't expect to see one!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama


    Fair point, thanks.

    Will i bring ye back a fleg or two?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Nissan introduced the Leaf long before MG and Koreans started producing EVs, Renault are the same automotive group. I think nose in parking is a bad idea, and that Nissan made a mistake by placing the charge port there. Unfortunately other manufacturers have copied the design.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Lol and why is it a mistake to put the port at the front exactly?



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I agree, wherever possible I reverse into a parking spot in order to get in and drive off when I get back

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭eagerv


    So do I, but in ESB's great wisdom they have designed the only fast charging spot at my nearest city for drive in angled charging bays (On one way system). Similar for some of their type 2s.

    Post edited by eagerv on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,127 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Bolton St carpark, Waterford?

    what a sh1tshow that charger is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭vinniem


    Not me experience! I've used Templepatrick and Glenshane DC chargers many times, only had to wait on the AC about 10mins once in Templepatrick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,296 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    My favourite one in Waterford is the train station, one of the spaces is basically unusable since you'd be wedged against the wall and still blocking most of the car park entrance

    Well I guess it's still usable but it wouldn't endear you to anyone entering or exiting the car park

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Yep, but to be equally critical, Ionity did something similar at Kill East. And it is lethal there with the speed traffic enters the services. Ok when it's quiet or there isn't an artic parked in front of the chargers..



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Those angled ones are really bad. The best layout I've used was the Gridserve charging station, no surprise that it ends up looking like an elongated petrol station. The chargers being along side the cars allows good coverage for wherever the manufacturer has chosen to place the port. I'd say we're a very long way from eCars ever planning something as advanced or even more basic like the smaller Fastned stations.

    The other advantage is that when you stop making a charging station look like a car park, people stop parking in it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama


    This advice was spot on. Broken chargers everywhere and working ones hogged by locals. A complete mess up there.

    and only one esb charger each side in Castlebellingham? they're missing a trick there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,127 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama


    two 7kw chargers in the car park (probably 500 spaces), one broken one had the same car on it for 5 hours.

    Post edited by TheWonderLlama on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    They're not even 7kW, 3kW as far as I remember.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,127 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    and only one esb charger each side in Castlebellingham? they're missing a trick there.

    Yes, especially when you see the 8 Tesla HPC's that are there.... surely eCars have that site lined up for another unit each direction...

    I was there Saturday and saw 3 cars using/waiting to use the eCars unit, while I was the only Tesla there at one stage!! ...and I was only there as I've got a ton of free charging to use before it expires in about 7 weeks!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,457 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Plenty of rumors abound that Tesla lease for the SuCs are not going to be renewed there. So there will be a prewired HPC available both north and southbound.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,127 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    That would tie in with their recent announcement of a new 'Castlebellingham North' Supercharger site... and if it's an offline site, it would suit both northbound & southbound traffic.. so only a single site would suffice.

    If eCars don't jump in there with at least a HPC, they are done for...

    And as much as I'd hate to see a motorway services lose a SuC, both those Castlebellingham sites are utter sh1tholes.... so I wouldn't miss them if I never had to stop there again....

    I was in Enfield services (westbound) yesterday grabbing a toilet break and coffee, and same as Castlebellingham, it was a dirty kip.... coming home it was so much nicer stopping into Johnstown Estate for a charge...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭handpref


    “I was in Enfield services (westbound) yesterday grabbing a toilet break and coffee, and same as Castlebellingham, it was a dirty kip.... coming home it was so much nicer stopping into Johnstown Estate for a charge...”

    Fully agree Andy, the toilets in some of these services are appalling- Applegreen Lusk M1 northbound is another shocker, the tiles started to soak up the piss from the floor along time ago …cashel services il never return too if humanly possible …..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,457 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Cashel in fairness benefits from some "temporary local residents" in the location though.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    If the Applegreen operated service stations are ending the lease with Tesla for Superchargers, there's absolutely no hope that they'll allow eCars to extend beyond the current infrastructure. They've already spent the past couple of years blocking eCars expansion. Applegreen need to hurry up deploy their own infra if they want to carry on playing these stupid games.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,457 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    To be clear, it's passive ending (ie not renewing the lease) as opposed to actively ending.(paying a break clause etc). And it's only a rumor.

    There was the same problem with Ecotricity in the UK for a few years having MSA exclusivity. Don't know if that continues still. I'd prefer to charge at a MSA than a hotel but I'm not going to a SPOF ecars over a 6-8+ stall SuC!



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