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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    There was talk of feeding plankton, stimulating them to grow with iron filing etc etc.


    Let their mortal remains fall to the sea floor and lock away carbon that way.


    If it works it should be tried.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Why do you imagine that the Belgian PM is bullshi7ing?


    I know business people whose bills have gone from 5k last year to over 11 now and that is before the 34% rate hike in October and the ones after that.


    They employ 6 people, atypical story.


    Why are you so optimist on electricity. What do you know that those in the Industry do not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,168 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Houses in Western Australia mostly have a 3 phase power supply as standard. No need to pay the ESB €26,000, or whatever it is. It's really handy because you can have instantaneous electric hot water heaters with no need for an insulated storage tank and the energy waste involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,292 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Charging EVs during peak demand should be discouraged but charging overnight when there is plenty of unused capacity is essentially free energy as that energy would have simple gone to waste

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,168 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I know you absolutely revel in the stymiing of all fossil fuel ventures by regulatory and legal hurdles, but prepare yourself for dissapointment. I know you think these are all permanent obstacles and cannot be altered, but that is not the case. If there are significant economic, commercial or political repercussions, arising from the current energy crisis, like a very large US MNC threatening to terminate tens of thousands of jobs, you will find that even an Irish government can probably be moved to act.

    So carry on with your gloating link drops, while you can.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,292 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Assuming it's a more recent EV with well over 100kms of battery range, If you're completely draining your battery every day and charging it fully every night you'd need 3 phase but that means you'd be saving a fortune in fuel costs so it would be economic to get one installed. Most people do 40km or less per day so would only be topping up batteries a few times per week

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,292 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Not a puff of wind today, in the doldrums most of the month.

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    Not even offshore wind works.

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    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,168 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    A literal no-brainer if you are someone who drives their car to work so it's rarely connected to the panels if the sun happens to be shining during those rather rare hours in a year when it is (14.8%).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,292 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You can convert single phase to 3 phase using a phase converter which would be sufficient for a car charger installed on a fixed point they cost about a thousand euros

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,292 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    It's worth a go but we need to reduce emissions as well. Rewetting previously drained wetlands seems to be another good way to sequester carbon and improve biodiversity

    The IPCC projections require negative carbon emissions beyond 2050 to avoid going over 2c of warming

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,168 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    There is absolutely no point in doing that for high load devices, whatsoever. The whole point of a 3 phase connection is that you can deliver a lot more energy than with single phase. Converting single phase to 3 phase doesn't alter the limitation inherent in single phase energy delivery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Its funny that the basics are forgotten. Wires melt why 3 phase have large cables.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,168 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Have you thought of going outside and shining a torch at the solar panels? At least until your single phase to 3-phase converter arrives...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    It was a decade ago, someone in Spain got caught generating Solar power at night, at the time the Spanish government paid out a premium for solar, and one "enterprising individual" found a way to run a diesel generator. . . Of course Spain crashed in the 2008 bust and had to cancel the solar party so many of the investors who thought they were on a sure thing went bust.


    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭Shank Williams


    Well they kinda are - we are going to run out of them at some stage- and long before last drop is pumped it will become uneconomical to extract as the energy cost of getting it out of the ground becomes greater than what you get when it comes out of the ground.


    there is no way renewables can make up the shortfall- intermittency and the huge energy cost of materials sees to that


    so we are in for a very rough ride



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,292 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Apologies. I have used phase converters off single phase power supplies to power 3 phase motors before. But I double checked and it wouldn't work for charging a battery

    I knew there was auxiliary motors working along side capacitors, and I've physically used them successfully but not for high current scenario like welding or fast charging a high capacity battery

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    Yep, hopefully this happens in the middle of December and there is the mother of all blackouts and puts a stop to this rubbish. A kick in the bollocks will focus your mind very quick. Might put a stop to the dreamers thinking they can power their their cars from farts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,292 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    We would just use gas backup which is the current plan

    You need someone to sabotage both Corrib and the Moffat pipeline and moneypoint.. I don't hope this happens

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,643 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Danzy I`m shocked.

    How could you possibly believe that Gazprom`s hush hush 192 million contribution to Manuela Schwesig`s (number 10 on that list) Climate Foundation came with strings attached and was never intended for anything other than promoting efforts to counteract climate change.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,292 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    There are lots of pathways to carbon neutral energy. It's a matter of picking the ones that suit us best and investing in them

    The final few percent are always the hardest. But we can handle those after all the lowest hanging fruits are picked

    The main concepts are

    1. Big interconnected super grids build resilience

    2. Storage, even short term, allows time to switch on backups and completely eliminate peaker gas turbines reducing our reliance on fossil fuels significantly

    3. Local power generation and storage on the domestic or municipal scale adds resilience

    4. Increasing efficiency can reduce demand

    5. Storage means peak demand disappears. Energy demand can be divorced from generation capacity. In the same way we don't just get to drink water when it's raining, we can store energy when it's abundant and consume it when we need it.

    The first people to propose building water reservoirs by flooding valleys by building dams were told it couldn't work and would be too expensive

    They're on the same side of history as the people who say we cannot store electrons because they're too expensive and take up too much space etc.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Super grids sound very green. Are there copper tree plantations somewhere its picked of like fruit ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    So gas is the keystone holding up the green archway to utopia. Can we not depend on wind,solar, hydro to keep the lights on ? Gas at the moment is in short supply, anyone's guess what's happens this winter. Personally I hoping for lights out and a rude awakening, it's only a matter of time anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,292 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Not until we build the infrastructure needed to support renewables. So let's hurry up and do that.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,643 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    So now the green`s and their sidekicks not just happy with making a mocker out of planning, they are attempting to do the same with the Standards in Public Office.

    If anyone should be up in front of that office for poor standards in public office it`s Minister Eamon Ryan on his disgraceful behaviour in relation to Shannon LNG ABP, Barryroe and Europa Oil and Gas. When we end up like the Italian`s having to pay 190 million + interests to Ombrina Mare then I look forward to your attempts at explanation as to how righteous he was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭Shank Williams


    we need storage solutions yesterday- there are non forthcoming

    batteries in EVs are anything but green in terms of amount of earth moved to get the minerals /metals needed


    we are out of time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭Shank Williams


    Infrastructure needed to support renewables requires huge amounts of fossil fuel inputs and minerals/metals that are on no way green to extract


    we are out of time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    We need to get new power plants up and running as quickly as possible. We need to drastically encourage the evaluation of all gas/oil prospects in Irish waters and we need to look at Fracking.

    Just some of the short and longer term solutions as reality hits people.

    It's not going to be a debate. Everything has changed.

    When the high bills drop through the door and probable power outages coming the reaction is going to be bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    The secret to a good quick draw is always keep your back to the sun so as you know what your shooting at




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭Shank Williams


    If there was easily accessible economically viable gas/oil deposits off the Irish coast they would have been tapped years ago- there isn’t- sure Corrib field already running out



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