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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    Ahhhh Boarders, ever the optimist 😀

    I like to view the beginning of each season from a positive perspective and then have my misplaced positivity shoved unceremoniously where the sun doesn't shine as the season progresses. I'm fairly certain that this year will be no different.

    Expectation: 44pts 11th

    Hopes: 52pts 8/9th

    Reality: 41pts 12th

    Fears: 32pts 14th

    Europe: couldn't give a flying f### run a few academy and young fellas. Maybe target 1 home game for the fans but don't lose sight of the big picture, the league.

    Recruitment: Probably the single best recruitment period in Connachts history, we have signed 2 excellent players from Leinster in Murphy and Dooley and a potential Irish winger if he can stay fit plus 2 likely lads from the southern hemisphere and bolstered our 10/12 with a good young fella while retaining all of our decent players bar Arnold who I think we will miss. I can hear lads shouting what about Dillane!! But in fairness he's been short of average now for a good while. Also we have a great signing in Joyce for next year.

    Friend: a hugely positive influence overall, I get the annoyance at the slightly blasé public responses to bad defeats however I think he's been an important steadying influence and has brought an attacking mindset to the club, recognizing that big set piece and defensive beasts are outside our budget and seeking an alternative point of difference, that it hasn't made us contenders doesn't mean it's failed, it has succeeded in keeping us where we have been for a decade. Job number 1 for any Connacht coach, don't become another Boarders. The team not the poster🤔

    This season and last were always going to be a challenge with the draw rules, I think Connacht are right to use these seasons to prepare for next, hold our own on the pitch, renovate the ground a bit, drag in a few likely lads from Leinster and try to kick on to mid table next season under new management.

    We aren't going to buy our way to success and we aren't going to grow it locally with the playing numbers, success is remaining in this league and starting every season with Hope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Team to play Castres:

    • 15. Oran McNulty
    • 14. Adam Byrne
    • 13. Byron Ralston
    • 12. Tom Daly (captain)
    • 11. Alex Wootton
    • 10. David Hawkshaw
    • 9. Caolin Blade
    • 1. Denis Buckley
    • 2. Grant Stewart
    • 3. Dominic Robertson-McCoy
    • 4. Niall Murray
    • 5. Oisín Dowling
    • 6. Ciaran Booth
    • 7. Shamus Hurley-Langton
    • 8. Seán Masterson

    Replacements:

    • 16. Eoin de Buitléar
    • 17. Matthew Burke
    • 18. Sam Illo
    • 19. Darragh Murray
    • 20. Oisín McCormack
    • 21. Colm Reilly
    • 22. Shane Jennings
    • 23. Josh O’Connor
    • 24. Charlie Ward
    • 25. Bart Vermeulen
    • 26. Donnacha Byrne




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Interesting to see six props on the team sheet.



  • Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The danger with writing off a season with the hope of the rules changing in our favour is that it mightnt necessarily be a positive change and you find yourself in the loop of challenge cup season upon season. All the while the key players we have are a year older and like you say we aren't realistically going to get through huge numbers of local players so trying to build a strong squad into the future will be even more difficult.

    Even allowing for the changes our league season was effectively over by game 3 last season and even the most optimistic fan knew it was over after Glasgow at home.

    The signings on paper look like decent business but it depends on the hunger of the leinster players. If they give full buy in, injury permitting you'd expect they'll improve us.

    With the southern hemisphere players you never know. Friend has generally recruited reasonably well in that regard to be fair

    If the start of the season goes as anticipated I'd be treating the challenge cup seriously. It's not a prestigious competition but European rugby is the only potential we have to showcase ourselves and to keep the crowd interested after Christmas. Whether we come 11th or 13th or whatever in the league is all the one really. Either we make Europe or we don't. If we are out of contention to make Europe we will inevitably lose our way in the league so may as well have Europe to throw our lot at.

    I enjoy the style of rugby we play when it works but playing in an attacking fashion shouldn't negate the need to have some fundamentals to our game. Our lineout wouldn't look out of place in junior rugby at times.

    Our defence is a joke. Sometimes you have to hold up your hands butof that we can do nothing about but some of it is due to systems failure and/or laziness of certain individuals. Players like doing the flashy attacking stuff but are either incapable or too lazy to perform basic defensive responsibilities. When a team grinds us down I expect that but as we have seen with defensive maul lineout in particular a lot of improvements can be made by everyone putting their shoulder to the wheel in a coordinated fashion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭b.gud


    Carty is the club captain for the coming season with Bundee and Butler as vice-captains


    https://www.connachtrugby.ie/jack-carty-named-connacht-rugby-captain-for-2022-23/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Saw a few rumours that Friend is leaving at the end of the season and that the club is considering Wilkins as a new top man. Hence the promotion from senior coach to head coach under friend as director of Rugby.

    Friend's contract is supposed to be up at the end of the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Surely, Carolan and Muldoon could be tempted to return, in some capacity.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Carolan had spent his entire career at home in Connacht. Dont think he'll come back for a few years.

    Muldoon. dont see him coming home for few years yet either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Peter Wilkins has just been involved in what is arguably Irish rugby's greatest achievement ever. People need to give him some space. If this season works out, one assumes that he will get the job.

    Carolan has only been gone a year, and Muldoon is in his first coaching job under his former coach Pat Lam. Both need to get further experience, but yes, I hope that both will be back in the organisation at some point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Great to see Hawkshaw straight in at 10, surprised that there are no outhalves on the bench, so Daly to cover if required. Presumably, that means Conor Fitzgerald and Cathal Forde will be selected against Sale. Any news of how Jack is doing after his operation?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭briandebum


    Full time Castres 57 - 19 Connacht. Not exactly what you want to see after reading Borders No.2's post above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Former Coach


    Wouldn't read too much into a pre-season friendly, especially when we have a different 15 taking on Sale on Friday. Ulster away in the first round of the URC will give us a better idea of where we stand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    It's funny you say that. Preseason is usually not too far off the mark. And shipping just short of 60 points sounds about right these days. I'm sure if we could defend we would be mighty. Thankfully we have our defense coach as head coach now to solve that problem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Plus Castres' season starts two weeks earlier than ours, so you'd imagine they are further along in their prep than us. That being said, our defence got utterly shredded last pre season by London Irish, and those issues continued throughout the regular season, so I am a little nervous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    CONNACHT RUGBY SQUAD V SALE SHARKS

    Friday 26th August @ Dubarry Park, Athlone (k/o 19:00)

    15. Tiernan O’Halloran

    14. Diarmuid Kilgallen

    13. Tom Farrell

    12. Shayne Bolton

    11. John Porch

    10. Conor Fitzgerald

    9. Kieran Marmion

    1. Peter Dooley

    2. Dylan Tierney-Martin

    3. Jack Aungier

    4. Josh Murphy

    5. Gavin Thornbury

    6. Jarrad Butler (c)

    7. Conor Oliver

    8. Paul Boyle

    16. Eoin de Buitléar

    17. Jordan Duggan

    18. Sam Illo

    19. Darragh Murray

    20. Oisín McCormack

    21. Colm Reilly

    22. Shane Jennings

    23. Josh O’Connor

    24. Charlie Ward

    25. Bart Vermeulen

    26. Donnacha Byrne



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis



    I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic regarding defence ;)

    Colm Tucker has been in charge of that area for the last year, Wilkins had defence for the four years prior to that.

    I'm glad they made the change now rather than waiting until we've shipped 40+ in a URC game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭tobdom


    I'm prepared to 'wait and see' with regards to Wilkins move to Head Coach and responsibility for defence. We all remember how bad our defence was last year, but it really wasn' t much better under Wilkins from 17/18 to 20/21. Clearly Wilkins has something about him given his promotions through Connacht and his recent involvement with Ireland.

    Our average points per game conceded last season was a shocking 28!! Obviously we know there were some severe hammerings exacerbating things, but aren't there always! With Wilkins in charge of defence for the previous 4 seasons, our average points per game conceded was 22 (see below).

    Friend in DoR role does make sense for me in general, but it'll be interesting (and hopefully not disappointing) to see how it all works out this season.

    Points against/# matches

    • 2021/22: 502/18 = 28
    • 2020/21: 353/16 = 22
    • 2019/20: 360/15 = 24
    • 2018/19: 394/21 = 19
    • 2017/18: 477/21 = 23

    Points for/# matches

    • 2021/22: 399/18 = 22
    • 2020/21: 396/16 = 25
    • 2019/20: 302/15 = 20
    • 2018/19: 475/21 = 23
    • 2017/18: 445/21 = 21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭b.gud


    That team looks much stronger on paper than the one that lined out against Castres, it'll be interesting to see how they go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,223 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I tend to agree, it’s obviously nice to come out of the blocks absolutely flying but it’s hard to judge where different teams are in the build up to a new season. Better to do well but wouldn’t read too much into not doing great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭lostboy75


    Email in saying there is a live stream for tomorrow's match against Sale, which is great news for those of us that can't make it to Athlone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    About the game defence out wide wasn't better than Leinster game in Dublin . Though plenty of good to take frome it

    Maul defence held very well

    Scrum was stable

    not dominated in ruck

    All 3 with A team vs Castres best monsters


    Congratulated Peter for Irish winning serie vs All-blacks!


    Shamus not only scored twice but was everywhere in rucks

    McNulty disappointing, bad positioning, blocked-down

    N.Murray IS finally big enough

    Ralson very light for a centre IMO though. Dowling very involved

    Steewart needs to slim down

    Hawkshaw try was a pure collective beauty

    Byrne was involved in that 1st try. So much more bulked that other Connacht back.


    Happy to see Shane Jennings too. He as 13 and Ralston 14 would be more ligical than the other way IMO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Thanks for the report @connachta. Any thoughts on Booth, McCormack, Illo and Murray the younger?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭BrokenMan


    Sounds like there are some positives, good to hear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Also hoping to see a lot of Jennings this season, if he is to play 13 his defence will need to have improved..

    How was Hawkshaw at 10?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Just noticed Shayne Bolton is at 12 tonight. I thought he struggled a lot with alignment in attack and defensive positioning when at 13 last year. Seemed to me like a guy who had spent his entire career running over people and wasn't quite as strong in other areas of the game.

    Was always keen to see him at 12 as he is a monster and I think could really thrive with a more simplified role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    Completely agree with bolton 12

    Hawkshaw played under huge defensive pressure but didn't seem afraid by rush defence

    Booth ok D Murray very lively when on + lineout catches but needs to bulk

    The rest did not play enough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Match report said Sam Illo came on at 46 mins. How did the scrum hold up in the second half? One would have thought that Castres would be a good examination on that front.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    One very bad (his 1st) the others held well



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    Tbh I don't believe he was the only one. I thought the two Toms had some right howlers over the last season. And then the lineout seems to be a constant work in progress. On the positive side the maul defense seems to have improved



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