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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭morphy87




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭morphy87


    There are still great British herds down in Tipperary and Kilkenny, I’d even see most continentals and the majority of angus and Herefords would grade r’s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    There would be a sentimental attachment to them at that age.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Those FR posted above would be the exception rather that the rule in my mind anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,283 ✭✭✭Good loser


    Sold 6 HER and AA in mart in May. Gross 8940 Net 8810. Transport incl in costs 12 per head. So deductions €130 or €21.50 per head.

    VAT was 409 and Top up Vat €60. Don't know what the VAT top up was all about?

    Last factory deduction for 4 was €147 incl AA and Her deductions. Or €37 per head.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,926 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Something wrong with those factory deductions. He and AA deduction is 5/ head unless you had an AA or Hereford once off membership which was 100 euro. As long as you have the EIF payment stopped it works out around a tenner. Off hand as I have not got a cattle payment slip at present, it 5 for vet, 3 euro for insurance,and then there is two other stoppages bringing it to 10-11 euro depending on weight/value of the animal.

    There is two vat payment on a sale. There is vat on the mart fees and there is a technical vat with works out at about 5% of the total amount. This is only applicable where a buyer or seller is vat registered and needs to pay or claim back the vat

    When you get an animal slaughtered the factor get a vat amount back from the government. This is to compensate farmers for not being in the vat system and being able to claim back vat on certain inputs.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Yes Kepak and Liffey are both €11 an animal stoppage. Is there still a BSE testing fee as I haven't killed any old cows in awhile. Carriage to Kepak costs me €20 a head where as Liffey I usually drop down myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,283 ✭✭✭Good loser


    Factory charges for 2 AA 1 Her 1FR

    Vet 20 BDE 5 ABB 7.60 AA 12 Her 5 Insurance 6 haulage 75 and vat 17.25 Total 148

    Top up VAT in mart was a plus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Yes still around these parts. I love them and very undervalued. If you ever get a chance to see pics to they hey days of Seamus Purcell and see he had yards full of them. Let the others chase the continental show animal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,926 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Never allow a factory to pay haulage for you as they have to charge you vat whether haulier is vat registered or not.

    I never came across a vat top up in a mart. They usually just show the vat amount that is in the price

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Always a vat top up shown in any midland marts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Where is there value at present? I haven’t had a chance to watch a Mart with a few weeks. Any weanlings out yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,645 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    € 3790 for a bullock with horns. 😀




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Chanced a few autumn born bulls in mart today, done alright with no nuts all Sept & Oct born

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    What breeds were they, and were they squeezed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Ch lm and piedmontese full bulls



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,522 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Sold a few weanlings yesterday.

    3x BB heifers. Weighed 334 = €985

    1x Lm heifer. Weighed 352 = €930

    1x BB heifer. Weighed 360 = €1000

    All September 2021 born. No meal fed until 4 weeks before weaning. Weaned about 3 weeks. Built up to eating 1.5 kgs per day for the last while.

    1x BB bull. Weighed 368 = €1070

    1x BB bull. Weighed 362 = €1180

    1x Lm bull (dam is a BB cow). Weighed 374 = €1310

    1x BB bull. Weighed 388 = €1450

    1x BB bull. Weighed 382 = €1600

    Bulls got the same meal as the heifers above. Happy overall if a little disappointed with the heifers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,926 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There will be a nice twist on those two single heifers. They are probably capable of hanging 360 DW this time next year. Maybe even a bit heavier. If the 100 euro slaughter premia is in and a lad could collect ABP 20 c/ kg top up bonus. If prices hold any way steady they could turn into 2k

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,522 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I hope the man that bought them makes a few quid on them. There needs to be a return on them for someone in the line,but there's not much for the weanling producer at anything under €1000 a head in my opinion. Mind you the same man has bought the vast majority of my heifers for the last 4 years so he must be doing OK from them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Fair play but the best of luck to the lad that bought the last 3.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Good prices for your stock @Grueller, they were obviously top quality. Did any hear is Garavelli back buying weanlings for export..

    Post edited by Anto_Meath on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Ya I heard it from a mart manager.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,522 ✭✭✭Grueller


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,632 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    100,000 extra dairy-beef calves next Spring, according to this article from ICBF

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    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,632 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    So much for softening prices.

    Thank God for the lad selling them though.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,950 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    There's some fair touches through that especially for sub 500kg stock. The 850kg heifer @ €2260 looked to be the only value imo (that's coming from someone who doesn't kill cattle so could be wrong).

    Apart from the cow trade I don't think that beef/forward store cattle softened that much in the marts around here recently. I sold bullocks a month ago for a relation and had been led to believe that the bullock trade was well back at the time. The first bullock he had was a spring 20 born CHx. He would have been a right one only he got a horrid doing with angleberries and didn't grow or thrive right until this summer. He weighed 590kg (he was a little muscly lad and I thought he'd be nearer 650kg, easy known there was no real power in him) at €1880. I couldn't believe it tbh, a total rob imo and I wouldn't like to be killing him based on past performance.

    The rest were HEx runners he bought off a dairy man locally. They were autumn 20 born and did ok but nothing exceptional thrive wise. They were from 500-550kg and made between €1200-€1300.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,926 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Depending on how empty the heifer was she could have made a bit more in the factory. However hard to see any margin in the rest of the cattle sold there

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,645 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Just had a quick look at the Ennis weanling sale there now. First ones I saw, 380kg Jan & Feb 2022 - €1280. Another 460kg €1360 Jan 2022. All nice golden char.



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