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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,780 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    All it'll take is one of them with a bit of cunning and you have another Oklahoma.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,222 ✭✭✭✭briany


    "They're trying to take Trump down. Not on my watch! I declare WAR! Who's with me??"

    (Smash cut to lone guy trying to attack FBI headquarters)

    At the least, it's nice to know that reprisals aren't getting much traction, although it could be that more serious groups are keeping quiet for now, and are holding back until if/when Trump is gotten.



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Trolling or rather the trolls themselves have been shown to be suffering from several psychological disorders.

    This used to be one of the factors that would result in a political figure stepping out of a race such as Thomas Eagleton back in 1972.

    Now you have the GOP either targeting the opposition because they have a history of depression, or grabbing their ankles to pretend trump, marge etc aren't fu*king basket cases.



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sad to see when he and the GOP wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,227 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Isn't it incredible.

    Not one poster defending Trump's actions.

    Do you reckon it's because, in the time between the talking points being broadcast and the time the posters here take them up, they are completely debunked?

    Or do you think they've just given up defending him?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,227 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Even the "voice of reason" has disappeared. Disappointing!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,227 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    One of the excuses being pedalled out is that 45 was in a rush when he was packing and who knows what might have been packed away lol

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not in this thread anyway because they are banned from it. They are trying their best in a few others



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,687 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The ones who weren’t just pure trolls, true believers? Lot of them are probably still in shock. These were the same people who attacked Hillary for classified emails. It lost her the election in part. There are so many clearance holders turning on trump right now. Loose lips sink ships and all that. If the IC OIG comes back to congress and has to report that the Intel was actually leaked that will be one thing if they also have to report this led to attacks on American armed forces, outing of our spies or crippling of our Intel gathering or anything.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,898 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Considering the multitude of conflicting excuses and lies coming from the Trump side, I'd say the Trump defenders are waiting on them to settle on one excuse that they can start parroting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,221 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So the other one now is that just because the boxes has top secret on them doesn’t mean it was actually top secret. I’ve seen less shifting of goalposts during a weekend underage hurling blitz. It’s **** insane how much mental gymnastics the GOP have been doing this week is mind numbing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,983 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Rand Paul and his sudden concern with equity and fairness of the Espionage Act is both hilarious and horribly indicative of just how debased the GOP are.


    It's easy to waffle on about the "party of Law & Order" but they are seemingly intent on burning down what they cannot control.

    One of the prescient moments of Washington's farewell address was his warning against political parties and factionalism. It's quite ironic given the store placed in the "founders" that his warning and Jefferson and Madison warning that for religious freedom that there can be no "state religion"...

    That the GOP are intent on a Christo-Nationalist establishment controlled by their party and to detriment of the personal freedoms that are espoused as the American dream.



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It really is like when a five year old gets caught out lying



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Or they're waiting for Biden to drop his sunglasses or something so they can start another nothing burger and continue that tirade for pages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,222 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Someone like Rand Paul has no principles, Christo-Nationalist or otherwise. Trump made a joke out of him in the 2016 primary, and Rand Paul slinked off for a while to nurse his wounds, before coming back with a beard and acting like he'd been a Trump supporter all along. It just shows he'll do anything to keep his job and bit of power it affords. Ted Cruz is another one prostrating himself for Trump after getting personally insulted during that primary. You'd wonder if it gives either man trouble when they can't sleep and start taking stock of things in their minds. Maybe, maybe not, but they'll surely get up the next day for another day of stumping up for daddy Trump either way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,961 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    This is probably it. The simple minded are easily confused. They'll have to wait to be told what to say, once the Trump ratfuckers figure it out for themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Cruz is an odious human.

    Imagine licking the ass of the man who dunked on your wife in front of hundreds of millions of peoples. More backbone in a jellyfish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,687 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The biggest one they keep running with is “the president can declassify anything wherever whenever.”

    Theyre still treating this like it’s going to be a political impeachment, with a jury of elected officials. It isn’t. The jurors are going to be sequestered AF and this line is going to go over like a lead balloon upon testimony from subject matter experts in SIGINT and the classification protocols



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Saw something about how he only had 6 hours to pack.

    As if he did any packing, and anyway he had months to pack from the previous November.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,687 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    6 hours and all those months/weeks he tried to obstruct the transition of power.

    But great more evidence: admitting the defendant was acting hastily and recklessly with TS/SCI. Super!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,227 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    The lack of backbone in the GOP is truly beyond belief. Didn't Trump accuse Ted Cruz's father of being involved in the JFK assassination? And make disparaging comments about Cruz's wife? And yet, Cancun Cruz spends 23 hours a day licking Trump's boots. You'd wonder how he can sleep at night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,227 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Plus, anytime he tried to use that "I am the president, I can do wtf I like" etc bullsh1t before the courts, he has been bounced out of it.

    I read a few valid points over the weekend.

    1) The fact that this stuff was printed out is unusual and would raise questions as to why.

    2) he didn't pack this stuff himself. Others did. Others who knew what it was and either knew or were reckless in not checking whether what they were doing was illegal. They are legally compromised now and Trump doesn't have the power anymore to pardon them. Potential there to pressure them to co-operate

    3) Any lawyer signing a document confirming that all docs were handed over is in trouble. Further potential there to pressure them to co-operate

    Also, it is logical that bringing matters this far either means that the Feds are going to bring something they know can stick, or it is one of the biggest blunders in Fed history. You don't do this unless you are certain you can bring it home. I don't think that if the resulting charge is merely holding on to docs would be enough (politically) to justify these actions. Therefore, there has to be much more than taking the docs and a subsequent obstruction charge when he didn't comply. I think that they need to show either that he

    a) tried to monetise the docs, or

    b) was actively and overtly jeopardising US security

    That's the level I think the charges need to be at.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,898 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    On a big pile of money from all his donors because helping support Trump's agenda and remaining one of the top GOP guys would keep the cash rolling in.

    It's how his wife sleeps next to him that I fail to understand, because she's the one the comments were made about. How she or his daughters have stuck around is something I don't understand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,222 ✭✭✭✭briany


    His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous,” Trump said Tuesday during a phone interview with Fox News. “What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it.”

    “I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?” Trump continued. “It’s horrible.”

    To me, it reads more like he's saying that Cruz's father was with Oswald, prior to Oswald being shot, although that wouldn't make sense since Oswald was in custody very shortly after he shot JFK. But whatever he meant, it was a bizarre statement.

    As for Cruz (and Paul) maybe they believe supplication to Trump and Trumpism is their surest chance to be president themselves, one day, or maybe just to hang on to their job. Personally, I'd rather fall on my political sword.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,871 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I would imagine that many in the GP and on Fox are just praying for something so bad that it turns everybody against him. Then he'd be crucified like maybe we've never seen before.

    I has to be everybody though, as they cannot afford any significant split in the party.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,227 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    * Packing was rushed and some confidential docs may have been inadvertently put in the boxes.

    * Trump liked to bring work home with him.

    * The warrant violates the 4th amendment

    Any others?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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