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Chinese E-Bikes

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 47,443 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    you need to bear in mind what happens if there's an issue with the bike; do you have a local bike shop who are willing to service it for you? can they service it for you?

    the second bike in your list does not qualify as a pedelec as the motor is double the limit of 250W to qualify, and legally is a moped.

    third comment - do you need such fat tyres? they'll reduce range.



  • Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭Silverdream


    I don't know of any bike shops near me that know anything about E-Bikes so it would be a worry. The second bike can be got with a 250Watt motor. I'd like to know how can one tell the difference by just looking as they all seem very similar, I wonder is it just software in the controller?

    I like the look of the fat tyres, but they might not be practical I really don't know. I'd have though that the commute would be within it's range. I can't find a foldable bike with narrow wheels for some reason



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭jamesd




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,148 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    I would recommend going with RadPower (with the caveat mentioned above that servicing it still might not be straightforward). But they are a relatively big and reputable brand, I bought their cheapest ebike second hand as I leave it locked on the street semi regularly and I've been surprised by how good it has been in the 500km or so I've put on it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭Silverdream


    I couldn't do it to myself after the bad experience I had with Halfords n the past.

    The RadPower is tempting, my only issue is the price tag. It's €500 more than the Aliexpress bike but they look almost identical.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭cletus


    On the servicing front, I wa in with my local bike mechanic a while back, and he had a Chinese ebike in for repairs.

    He couldn't get replacement electronic parts, so he was having to bodge connections and stuff to get it running. He's very good, but a lot of bike shops won't go to the trouble he did



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,148 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    1000 euros is still a bit of a gamble to buy anything from Aliexpress. I would prefer some form of name and possible comeback if anything goes wrong

    You can also find referral codes for Rad Power if you look around online



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,583 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Another vouch for the RadPower here, we’ve a Radmission in the house and it’s been great, their support is decent too



  • Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭wheelo01


    I know most of the fold up bikes I see around here are Fiido bikes, two people I know have the D2S, they tell me it came in around €700.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    For the budget, Rad Power Bikes seems the safer way to go. Atleast you'd likely have better come back and can source parts easier.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭9320


    Would there not be customs issues with the Aliexpress route? So that price may not be final price.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 47,443 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    my LBS will fix punctures on the fiido and no more. he reckons they're junk.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,384 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    worth looking at buying a motor and kit and fitting it to an existing bike? hoping to do the same myself



  • Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭Silverdream


    They are sent from Poland so if I was to get hit by customs I would not be paying it just cancelling the order instead.

    I'm not expecting top quality but in fairness a lot of the Branded stuff comes from China and contains the exact same components.

    It's just out of my Budget, I'm really stretched to €850-900 without much hope of going higher as I've more new bills every week!! I've bought loads of stuff off Aliexpress or Amazon and often at half the price of any retailer here. My last purchase was a Welder from Amazon and it is a fantastic piece of kit at a bargain price



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,148 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    If you are really stretched on budget then please make sure to check customs. A few people have already suggested the Rad Power but you never know maybe the others will arrive in a reasonable time and work well. It is a big gamble if money is tight though compared to buying from a brand with some sort of reputation



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    They look like pure junk too. I would wonder about the batteried. If they are junk, thr bike is a fire hazard.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,870 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    A few people in work have them. No sign of a fire hazard but the range drops significantly with regular use (according to them, not me). If you don't have far to go, you'll probably never notice but I imagine if it's anywhere near the range value, then you may be disappointed sooner rather than later. May just be bad luck but multiple people in one workplace wouldn't instill faith from me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Sure they don't even look like proper bikes, and the wheels for Irish road surfaces. That's a no from me before we even get to being road legal. The ones I see don't require pedal power for the motor to assist.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Fiido's are basically eScooters with pedals from what I've seen.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,102 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    They'll be covered as PPT's, if/ when that legislation is passed won't they?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    that remains to be seen - I'd assume so if they're under 250W and 25km/h



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Are non-pedalectics categorised thr same as pedalectics? I thought they had to be the latter to comply with the EU directive. 250KW / 25kmph limit is then the secondary criteria.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I'd assume if they're not a pedelec (because they have a throttle), then they're de-facto a PPT regardless of the fact that they have pedals and will be covered under the new legislation. But we won't know until it's published



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,102 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    My assumption is as per loyatemu, but I wouldn't put in past them to overcomplicate things!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Exactly, if they have a throttle are they not a different category than pure-pedectics? That is, motorised vechicle, requiring licence etc? Or is all that out the door now? No doubt time will tell.

    Those big ones linked earlier in the thread are monsters. To think a pedal cyclist is having to share a cycle lane with these beasts. They are more like motorbikes than bicycles.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,102 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    The logic is that throttle scooters will be legal as a PPT, so that would apply to a throttle ebike (as a "ppt"). With the same conditions as scooter/ pedelec in terms of speed limit. Throttle ebike doesn't necessarily mean breaching the 25km/h. There's one or two on my commute which I pass on my normal bike, so not everyone is going crazy even as is (and pedelec's I can't keep up with when going over 25km/h!).



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    There is a key difference between both modes.. One has pedals. I would hope all bicycles with throttles are not categorised the same as scooters, which need one. The former does not if its compliant with the EU-directive on pedalectics (power assist only)



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,583 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    The grey area/overlap with the scooters is they technically can be self propelled since you can just scoot on them like a micro-scooter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭Silverdream


    Seen one in the flesh sort of speak today. They are fair big and awkward looking. I watch the guy cycle off on it, he seemed to struggle to get the bike going for the first peddle or two but then you could see the motor kick in and he took off.

    I reckon without the motor it would be next impossible to go anywhere, the fat wheels are just too big and the bike looks heavy. I wouldn't like to get knocked over by one either you'd be K.O'd.

    I think I'll be choosing a lighter bike with narrower tyres, them 4 inch+ fat tyres are a no no



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  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭getoutadodge


    "I reckon without the motor it would be next impossible to go anywhere, the fat wheels are just too big and the bike looks heavy. I wouldn't like to get knocked over by one either you'd be K.O'd."


    Same applies to all e bikes. I have a conversion. Truth is that if the battery fails its next to impossible to cycle in a normal way with just leg power. It's why Im so paranoid about range.



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