Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

errr governments frequently make decisions that negatively impact citizens and taxpayers…

just now with these decisions…. They know that the will impact negatively this country and it’s citizens….this is only the tip of the iceberg….

you’ll probably have them advocating after a few months that we give them all passports.

Politicians don’t care about the man on the street, they all have two pensions, generous wages, housing, health insurance…. The rest of the citizens…

That might be so in the immediate term, such as the introduction of USC and so on, but it’s for the greater benefit of Irish society as a whole in the long term, as opposed to just being mindful of the negative impact it will have on taxpayers in the short term.

It’s true, politicians don’t care about the man on the street, they can’t afford to, because they have the interests of the country as a whole to consider, as opposed to just individuals who pay tax.

I’m certainly not opposed to the idea of refugees being granted citizenship and being eligible to apply for an Irish passport should they wish to, it isn’t costing me anything, but it would be of great benefit to the Irish nation as a whole that we would have just gained a whole new group of Irish citizens who are now in the same boat as everyone else politicians don’t care for, with the ability to vote for politicians who will cater for their interests, which may, or may not, and probably don’t, align with your interests for yourself.

Haha How is it lying ? We’ve already done it…as I stated :)

In addition, we are giving them free housing, free healthcare, free travel, free access to practically every service the state can enable people with…..

its not unreasonable to suggest they will be seeking further help.

’international protection’… they are being enabled with vastly more help then protection…

If the British attacked Ireland, we were all put on a plane to wherever, say to Denmark, Sweden, USA, …..

and Denmark say were to offer….modular home, to live in temporarily… with water, electricity, wifi, a tv, bathroom, fridge, freezer and cooker

free public transport within city boundaries...a certain level of basic healthcare..with a percentage of a social welfare payment…

120 per week… sounds reasonable ? I’d think all my Christmas’s has come together.

Europe is a continent, Europe is not at war.. imagining Leo what ? ok, I think you are in the wrong forum. :)

Somewhat disingenuous again, expressing an opinion now equals rattled… apparently ;)

europe, ain’t, at war ;)

I don't know, why don't you tell me Nermal?

We have taking in enough. So yes ban them coming untill we have the resources or others go back.

I don’t imagine Leo’s imagination was all that stretched in concocting the notion that Europe is at war, but within the context in which he said it, do you think he might have had a point given the impact of the war on the rest of Europe?

Asked what the government is doing to secure housing and rooms for those who will be moved out in the coming weeks, Mr Varadkar said it is “looking at all options”. 

“We shouldn’t lose sight of the bigger picture here,” Mr Varadkar added.

“Europe is at war. There’s a terrible war happening on our continent.

“Five million Ukrainians have been displaced from their homes.

“That’s roughly the entire population of the state and they’ve now been dispersed across Europe, and roughly 1% of them have come to Ireland. 

“There isn’t a country in Europe that had 50,000 or 100,000 vacant properties in case of war happened.

“That’s just not how the world works.

“We’re doing the best we can to accommodate people as best we can in all sorts of different settings, whether it’s rented accommodation, whether it’s hotels and B&Bs, whether it’s modular accommodation, or whether it’s in people’s homes, and that’s what we’ll continue to do.”

No matter what context he said it in, he was wrong. Europe is not at war.

It clearly DOES matter what context he said it in, especially when it comes down to the idea of arguing over whether Ukraine is even IN Europe, or not!

World wars have been started over less 😂