Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Pravda RTE did their best to avoid it by claiming the open market had suddenly led to student accommodation operators switching their entire accommodation portfolios in counties Donegal, Clare and Kerry (as called out in the article) without mentioning the actual reason.

Gombeens running the show.

I was no fan of Michael D but he is the only one calling it as it is.

This @#/%& wants to compete with you, poor taxpayers and workers, for buying existing houses.

He wants councils to buy the houses instead. That is his solution. To drive the price EVEN HIGHER.

https://businessplus.ie/news/landlords-leaving-the-market/

Not my estimations, they were taken from the BBC news website. Also, it is a lot easier to say estimated 5 million, when nobody knows the exact figure and don't want to say "roughly 5,039,134"

No I'm not. We are taking at least 100,000. The 200,000 is how many we could take in. Which by the way is far worse and idiotic.

Population 44 million. 7 million is 15%. More than 25% live in Dublin. So it's not the equivalent. Not really. It's more like 800,000+ being displaced. That would be 32,000 per county. But it's nonsense point to make anyway.

?? - and anyway, many may be pro war, and could have decided to go, you just don't know that to say it.

Less Areas. They are focusing on the Southeast. Not that any of your post is relevant, it still stands that the vast majority stayed there. It is only small percent that left (roughly 11%), and even then, many of those have returned. It makes no real sense to send 100,000 never mind 200,000 to the most western part of Europe, furthest possible place in the EU for them to go, when that is happening. We have done 'our bit'. We can't do any more without it being a massive strain on our already strained system.

Things are already getting worse here, how on earth does that make sense?

Do think the EU trigged the directive for the craic? Just to be uber sound?

Or do you think there was maybe just maybe a tiny bit of self preservation involved in the genesis of the directive?

Also calling for a government to break the law is a super dooper road to go down, can't see anything wrong with that. 👌

It seems large numbers are moving back to Ukraine now. Or are they just going back for holidays?

How come 1000s are still coming here?

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/06/21/ukrainian-refugees-are-beginning-to-return-home

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/aug/10/i-fled-ukraine-with-my-son-now-were-going-back-home-video

Because they weren’t statements of what should be.

Statements of what should be, can easily be dismissed as wishful thinking, like the idea of suggesting that our Government isn’t acting on our interests just because you don’t agree with their actions, or the idea that we can and should undo a choice which was made by our Government decades ago in the interests not just of ourselves, but in the interests of ‘humanity at large’ as you put it. It’s for reasons like this that the Temporary Protection Directive was codified in Irish law in the first place.

Undoing that isn’t something that can or would be done immediately, and certainly not now, when they were written expressly for circumstances like this. It’ll take years, and that’s assuming your ideas had any popular support that didn’t consist of nationalistic fcuknuggets who haven’t the first notion of Irish and International Human Rights Law.

Nope, the EU trigged the directive unanimously, it only needed a qualified majority. Denmark had an opt out, but created a law to mimic the directive.

The directive was incorporated into Irish law.

So you are advocating for governance to break laws, our laws, do you see any sort of issue with that going forward?

Seven hundred odd rentals in the whole country

On a property website that has become like donedeal for time wasters and pests.

Not the whole country.

It's fine we can take another 100,000

We don't need homes for the natives it's only refugees sure, the government will just rent 60,000 holiday homes for them.

The rest of the 5million population can fight over the 700 countrywide rentals available.

Plenty of room.

Be graaaaaand

Not according to Leo. He's always spouting that EU LAW bollocks.

While other countries say different by implementing their own policies over EU LAW.

It's just a cop out.

There is 10s of 1000s of properties for sale in the country, at this moment in time for a myriad of different reasons it's a sellers market, one might argue they were due it.

The rental market overall is stable, at inflation running at 2%, this is 99%+ of all renters. New renters are being fleeced though.

But I guarantee you there is far more than 700 properties to rent in the country this week.

Can you please provide some evidence to back up your guarantee that there is far more than 700 properties for rent in Ireland, and the rental market is stable before I award you with a trophy for being the stupidest c*nt on boards.

Good come back. So please explain the absolute horse shite you just spouted about your guarantee of more than 700 houses available to rent and the rental market being stable ?

Provide evidence of it. You're quick enough to demand evidence of other people yourself, so you provide it now